can we use proper english?

• Ah Chia

  31 Jul 09, 10:56

  Originally posted by Bangulzai:

  ... light-hearted reading  :) Singapore English: Learning and ... Elaine Silver [ Introduction ] Singapore English (Singlish) is ... system, established after Singapore became an independent...context. [ Features of Singapore English ] What, then...

  Bangulzai, thanks for the posts but above one too long already.

• Forbiddensinner

  31 Jul 09, 11:24

  Originally posted by purpledragon84:

  wah.. from one person trying to tell ppl to use proper english become gahmen bashing..

  lyk that also can ah..

  You haven't seen what else they could do yet.

• Gedanken

  31 Jul 09, 12:59

  Originally posted by Ah Chia:

  Lee Kuan Yew we know you are a banana.

  But WE are NOT banana.

  Please don't come and make policy try to turn us into banana like you.

  You think what, one big happy banana family ha ha ha?

  Fuck you lah, fucking banana.

  Lee Kuan Yew you banana, you enjoy sucking angmoh cock, you go and suck by yourself, don't spread your filth around.

  KNN, keng jio mah tio kan.

• Fantagf

  31 Jul 09, 13:34

  hilarious

   

• Bangulzai

  1 Aug 09, 01:51

   

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• Bangulzai

  1 Aug 09, 22:52

  Originally posted by Ah Chia:

  Last time I still respected him because he helped to develop Singapore economy, raise standards of living etc.

  Now, he is worse than a dog to me, because he is bent on destroying and suppressing my hokkien dialect and ultimately the culture.

  How can I show respect to someone who is bent against my dialect group?

  That is impossible.

   

  Ah Chia what was done by Lee Kuan Yew cannot be undone. Why not put your Hokkien dialect into good use and help people to learn when they need help?  See my thread: http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2029/topics/355579

• Ah Chia

  2 Aug 09, 10:52

  Don't understand the relationship of Englisn, dialects or Mandarin?

  To me all are useful.

  Chew Bakar you can speak how many languages?

   

   

  Ah Chia what was done by Lee Kuan Yew cannot be undone.

  I think it can be easily undone if changes are undertaken.

• Chew Bakar

  2 Aug 09, 12:05

  Originally posted by Ah Chia:

  Chew Bakar you can speak how many languages?

   

  A few. Language is always useful for interaction with someone. If you speak the language it will pull you closer and you will learn more.

• Ah Chia

  2 Aug 09, 12:09

  If you speak the language it will pull you closer and you will learn more.

  That is true. Lose the language will become more distance.

   

  A few.

  Chew, you went to chinese or english school?

• Chew Bakar

  2 Aug 09, 12:14

  Originally posted by Ah Chia:

  That is true. Lose the language will become more distance.

   

  Chew, you went to chinese or english school?

  Englsih school, Chinese was taught to me at home during WWII.

• Ah Chia

  2 Aug 09, 12:37

  Englsih school, Chinese was taught to me at home during WWII.

  So you which dialect?

  Hokkien like me?

• Chew Bakar

  2 Aug 09, 12:53

  Originally posted by Ah Chia:

  So you which dialect?

  Hokkien like me?

  Are you Hokkien or Hockchew?

• Ah Chia

  2 Aug 09, 12:58

  hokkien.

  Don't tell me you foochow?

• Chew Bakar

  2 Aug 09, 13:01

  Originally posted by Ah Chia:

  hokkien.

  Don't tell me you foochow?

  No, Amoy Hokkien. Seldom Hokkien run coffee shop business.

• Ah Chia

  2 Aug 09, 13:04

  Amoy Hokkien

  I don't even know which part of fujian my forefathers were from.

   

  Seldom Hokkien run coffee shop business.

  Why is that so?

   

   

• Chew Bakar

  2 Aug 09, 13:07

  Originally posted by Ah Chia:

  I don't even know which part of fujian my forefathers were from.

   

  Why is that so?

   

  Go and ask your elders, they will be able to tell you.

  Traditionally coffee shop business is ran by Hockchew and Hainanese.

• Ah Chia

  2 Aug 09, 13:14

  This is according to U.S army source:

   

  The largest Chinese dialect group in the late nineteenth century were the Hokkien, who were traditionally involved in trade, shipping, banking, and industry. The next largest group, the Teochiu, engaged in agricultural production and processing, including gambier, pepper, and rubber production, rice and lumber milling, pineapple canning, and fish processing.

  Cantonese served as artisans and laborers and a few made their fortunes in tin. The two smallest groups, the Hakka and Hainanese, were mostly servants, sailors, or unskilled laborers. Because wealth was the key to leadership and social standing within the Chinese community at that time, the Hokkien dominated organizations such as the Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce and supplied most of the Chinese members of the Legislative Council and the Chinese Advisory Board.

  The latter, established in 1889 to provide a formal link between the British government of the colony and the Chinese community, served as a place to air grievances but had no power...

  http://countrystudies.us/singapore/6.htm
  

• Chew Bakar

  2 Aug 09, 13:18

  Originally posted by Ah Chia:

  This is according to U.S army source:

   

  The largest Chinese dialect group in the late nineteenth century were the Hokkien, who were traditionally involved in trade, shipping, banking, and industry. The next largest group, the Teochiu, engaged in agricultural production and processing, including gambier, pepper, and rubber production, rice and lumber milling, pineapple canning, and fish processing.

  Cantonese served as artisans and laborers and a few made their fortunes in tin. The two smallest groups, the Hakka and Hainanese, were mostly servants, sailors, or unskilled laborers. Because wealth was the key to leadership and social standing within the Chinese community at that time, the Hokkien dominated organizations such as the Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce and supplied most of the Chinese members of the Legislative Council and the Chinese Advisory Board.

  The latter, established in 1889 to provide a formal link between the British government of the colony and the Chinese community, served as a place to air grievances but had no power...

  http://countrystudies.us/singapore/6.htm
  

  You don't need an ang moh to tell what group of Chinese you are.

  Please ask your elders, they will be more knowledgable than these foreign reports.

• Ah Chia

  2 Aug 09, 13:19

  

  Tan Kah Kee was born in Jimei, Tong'an County, Fujian Province, China(present-day Jimei District in Xiamen City), and went to Singapore in 1890, when he was 16 years old, to work for his father's rice store.

  After his father's business collapsed in 1903, Tan started his own business and built an empire from rubber plantations and manufacturing, sawmills, canneries, real estate, import and export brokerage, ocean transport to rice trading. His business was at its prime from 1912-1914, where he was known as "Henry Ford of [[British Malaya|Malayacommunity, both in Malaya and his native Fujian Province...

  ...Tan was the de facto leader of the Singaporean Chinese community, serving as chairman of the Chinese Chamber of Commerce and helped organise the Hokkien clan association.

  ...After the Communist victory in China, Tan tried to return to Singapore in 1950, but was denied entry by British colonial authority which was concerned about communist influence in Singapore and Malaya. He then moved permanently to China and served in numerous positions within the CCP. He died in 1961 in Beijing and was given a state funeral by the People's Republic of China...

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tan_Kah_Kee

   

  Tan Kah Kee is a capitalist but allied with communists.

• eeden.

  2 Aug 09, 13:31

  blame the education that stops chinese education after jc1 then.

• Ah Chia

  2 Aug 09, 17:42

  Englsih school, Chinese was taught to me at home during WWII.

  Did you use other languages in english school?

• Bangulzai

  2 Aug 09, 23:13

  Hard to undone

  I have posted an article on from the 早报 on why government doesn't allow dialect on TV before: http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/364662

   

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• Ah Chia

  2 Aug 09, 23:25

  Originally posted by Bangulzai:

  Hard to undone

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  You think I care about PAP's fucking propaganda?

  You have the will it can be done.

• Bangulzai

  2 Aug 09, 23:29

  Is there a systematic way that we can go about doing it?

• Chew Bakar

  3 Aug 09, 01:29

  Can't move on with a fixed mindset.