Speaking dialect has its uses

• Almond Cookies

  17 Jul 11, 10:07

  Thank you my grandma who teaches me cantonese. See hong kong drama can understand what they r saying.
• Clivebenss

  18 Jul 11, 15:23

  Originally posted by Almond Cookies:

  Thank you my grandma who teaches me cantonese. See hong kong drama can understand what they r saying.

  yr grandma got good taste.

  

• twist-turn-thrill

  18 Jul 11, 15:35

  My younger cousins can't speak Hokkien, our family's dialect. I'm quite fortunate to have been able to learn Hokkien by living with my grandma and I speak it quite often with her. It's a way of bonding with the older generation that the younger will lack :(

• BanguIzai

  19 Jul 11, 02:24

  Originally posted by Clivebenss:

  since we are on the topic sian...

  can you think of any other word to go with it..

  like:

  sian tu tu

  sian tau tau

  sian teh

  sian nua

  sian sian ai koon...

  haha..

  sian tuh tuh - �厾厾

  sian hor hor - åƒ�戽戽

  sian lau lau - åƒ�è�½è�½

  sian soh soh - åƒ�索索

  sian kah beh si - åƒ�甲慾死

  sian kah pik pok kio - åƒ�甲ç…�爆å�«

• Clivebenss

  19 Jul 11, 02:49

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

  sian tuh tuh - �厾厾

  sian hor hor - åƒ�戽戽

  sian lau lau - åƒ�è�½è�½

  sian soh soh - åƒ�索索

  sian kah beh si - åƒ�甲慾死

  sian kah pik pok kio - åƒ�甲ç…�爆å�«

  buay sian...

  haha...

   

• BanguIzai

  19 Jul 11, 21:40

  sian kah ai pang sai - �甲愛放屎

• Clivebenss

  20 Jul 11, 12:21

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

  sian kah ai pang sai - �甲愛放屎

  more like bo sia che sia pang - 沒屎找屎放.

  

• Clivebenss

  20 Jul 11, 12:34

  heard this phrase chui yim kah bak 水淹脚目?

• BanguIzai

  20 Jul 11, 15:19

  no leh, literally it means water flood until thigh or knee?

• Clivebenss

  21 Jul 11, 10:00

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

  no leh, literally it means water flood until thigh or knee?

  è„šç›® is not knee or thigh, do you understand the anatomy of the leg in Hokkien?

  

• BanguIzai

  21 Jul 11, 13:23

  Originally posted by Clivebenss:

  è„šç›® is not knee or thigh, do you understand the anatomy of the leg in Hokkien?

  

  its heels, cos i checked it with my dict. my dat part, i call "kh'a tsang tĩ" or "kh'a tĩ", indeed never used kh'a bak. why har?

• Clivebenss

  21 Jul 11, 13:30

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

  its heels, cos i checked it with my dict. my dat part, i call "kh'a tsang tĩ" or "kh'a tĩ", indeed never used kh'a bak. why har?

  it's the ankle not heel.

• BanguIzai

  21 Jul 11, 16:49

  that's bad. i had been speaking of heels and ankles as though they are the same thing. i think only today i knew the difference.

• Clivebenss

  21 Jul 11, 18:54

  I think you can re-explore and try to name part of the leg starting from sole to thigh.

  

  sole = kha chio

  toe = kha chng tow / kha chyai

  first toe = kha bu chyai

  2nd toe to 4th toe = goes by numbers

  last toe = kha beh chyai

  arch = kha kiau

  instep = kha phuay

  heel = kha ow tee

  ankle = kha bak

  shin = kha phee liam

  calf = kha twee

  knee = kha tow wu

  thigh = kha tor

  and finally buttock = you know liao.

  

   

• BanguIzai

  22 Jul 11, 04:04

   

  Originally posted by Clivebenss:

  I think you can re-explore and try to name part of the leg starting from sole to thigh.

  

  sole = kha chio

  toe = kha chng tow / kha chyai

  first toe = kha bu chyai

  2nd toe to 4th toe = goes by numbers

  last toe = kha beh chyai

  arch = kha kiau

  instep = kha phuay

  heel = kha ow tee

  ankle = kha bak

  shin = kha phee liam

  calf = kha twee

  knee = kha tow wu

  thigh = kha tor

  and finally buttock = you know liao.

  

   

  that's good. please do educate people like me with less than perfect vocab.

  I shall learn from this list, as well to let you know my points of difference in usage due to my brought-up or lack of knowledge:

   

  • sole = i only say kh'a tue 骹底, wat is kh'a chio ?  --joking: sounds like éª¹ç™¢'leg itchy' (in Teochew or Chiangchiu, with nasalized vowel "> tsÄ©õ <" ) to me it looks
  • toe = although i understand both your éª¹æŒ‡é ­ (kh'a tsng th'au) and éª¹æŒ‡ (kh'a tsãÄ©) and I have often hear people use it, although I only use the latter éª¹æŒ‡ (kh'a tsãÄ©) ( - as a parallel to the form æ‰‹æŒ‡ tsh'iu tsãÄ© , I don't use æ‰‹æŒ‡é ­ tsh'iu tsng th'au as well)
  • first toe = i understand your éª¹æ‹‡æŒ‡ kh'a bu tsãÄ© , I say éª¹å…®å¤§æŒ‡ kh'a e tua tsãÄ© usually  (interestingly, for thumb of hand, i use å¤§éƒ¨æ‹‡ tua por bu)
  • 2nd to 4th toe = i go by éª¹å…®ç¬¬äºŒéš»æŒ‡ kh'a e tue li tsiaÊ” tsãÄ©  and so on
  • last toe = i understand your éª¹å°¾æŒ‡ kh'a be tsãÄ© , I say éª¹å…®è�½å°¾èœ€éš»æŒ‡ kh'a e loÊ” be tsit tsiaÊ” tsãÄ©
  • arch = i understand your éª¹ç¿¹ kh'a kh'iau , this is the first time in my life hearing this as I have never needed to use this term before
  • instep = i don't even understand what it means by "instep", so forget about its position on my leg as I don't even have this part of the anatomy in my brain.  So may I ask what is "instep" as well as the corresponding kh'a phuay (骹 - what) ?
  • heel = i understand your éª¹å¾Œè¹¬ kh'a au tÄ©  and I have often hear people use it, I had been using a éª¹å�¢è¹¬ kh'a tsang tÄ©  form which I don't know where it came from,  do you happen to hear this form before?
  • ankle = i understand your éª¹ç›® kh'a bak, but I have never used this form as I had been calling the whole part from the half-lower part of my sole all the way up to bend before the small thigh as éª¹å�¢è¹¬ kh'a tsang tÄ© , this is a good clarification for me
  • shin = i cannot understand kha phee liam (骹 - 邊？- what's 'liam' ) at all
  • calf = i understand your éª¹è…¿ kh'a th'ui and I have often hear people use it, I normally use only one word, è…¿ th'ui , (e.g. æˆ‘兮腿干焦屎眞疼。wa e th'ui kan-na-sai tsin th'Ä©ã. )
  • knee = i have never refer to my knee in Hokkien before,  similarly strangely I have also never refer to my elbow in Hokkien before, may I know what's kh'a tow wu (骹 - 頭？兜？ - what's 'wu' ) ?
  • thigh = i understand your éª¹è‚š kh'a tor and I have often hear people use it, I normally use å¤§è…¿ tua th'ui , so do you think this is not acceptable?
  • buttock = I know it because it is commonly referred to in all dialects and also I have read a very good explanation why we should write å°»å·� as the recommended characters from a point of view from history and sounds, which I would like to share with all here:
    
                http://blog.roodo.com/limkianhui/archives/957102.html
    
    

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• Clivebenss

  22 Jul 11, 11:43

  look like we have to understand ourselves first before other things, I mean in Hokkien.

  Reply the above post later.

  lunch ready.

  

   

• BanguIzai

  22 Jul 11, 16:49

  Originally posted by Clivebenss:

  look like we have to understand ourselves first before other things, I mean in Hokkien.

  Reply the above post later.

  lunch ready.

  

   

  ya. If possible, type out all the anatomy for hand too

• Clivebenss

  23 Jul 11, 00:39

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

   

  that's good. please do educate people like me with less than perfect vocab.

  I shall learn from this list, as well to let you know my points of difference in usage due to my brought-up or lack of knowledge:

   

  • sole = i only say kh'a tue 骹底, wat is kh'a chio ?  --joking: sounds like éª¹ç™¢'leg itchy' (in Teochew or Chiangchiu, with nasalized vowel "> tsÄ©õ <" ) to me it looks
  • toe = although i understand both your éª¹æŒ‡é ­ (kh'a tsng th'au) and éª¹æŒ‡ (kh'a tsãÄ©) and I have often hear people use it, although I only use the latter éª¹æŒ‡ (kh'a tsãÄ©) ( - as a parallel to the form æ‰‹æŒ‡ tsh'iu tsãÄ© , I don't use æ‰‹æŒ‡é ­ tsh'iu tsng th'au as well)
  • first toe = i understand your éª¹æ‹‡æŒ‡ kh'a bu tsãÄ© , I say éª¹å…®å¤§æŒ‡ kh'a e tua tsãÄ© usually  (interestingly, for thumb of hand, i use å¤§éƒ¨æ‹‡ tua por bu)
  • 2nd to 4th toe = i go by éª¹å…®ç¬¬äºŒéš»æŒ‡ kh'a e tue li tsiaÊ” tsãÄ©  and so on
  • last toe = i understand your éª¹å°¾æŒ‡ kh'a be tsãÄ© , I say éª¹å…®è�½å°¾èœ€éš»æŒ‡ kh'a e loÊ” be tsit tsiaÊ” tsãÄ©
  • arch = i understand your éª¹ç¿¹ kh'a kh'iau , this is the first time in my life hearing this as I have never needed to use this term before
  • instep = i don't even understand what it means by "instep", so forget about its position on my leg as I don't even have this part of the anatomy in my brain.  So may I ask what is "instep" as well as the corresponding kh'a phuay (骹 - what) ?
  • heel = i understand your éª¹å¾Œè¹¬ kh'a au tÄ©  and I have often hear people use it, I had been using a éª¹å�¢è¹¬ kh'a tsang tÄ©  form which I don't know where it came from,  do you happen to hear this form before?
  • ankle = i understand your éª¹ç›® kh'a bak, but I have never used this form as I had been calling the whole part from the half-lower part of my sole all the way up to bend before the small thigh as éª¹å�¢è¹¬ kh'a tsang tÄ© , this is a good clarification for me
  • shin = i cannot understand kha phee liam (骹 - 邊？- what's 'liam' ) at all
  • calf = i understand your éª¹è…¿ kh'a th'ui and I have often hear people use it, I normally use only one word, è…¿ th'ui , (e.g. æˆ‘兮腿干焦屎眞疼。wa e th'ui kan-na-sai tsin th'Ä©ã. )
  • knee = i have never refer to my knee in Hokkien before,  similarly strangely I have also never refer to my elbow in Hokkien before, may I know what's kh'a tow wu (骹 - 頭？兜？ - what's 'wu' ) ?
  • thigh = i understand your éª¹è‚š kh'a tor and I have often hear people use it, I normally use å¤§è…¿ tua th'ui , so do you think this is not acceptable?
  • buttock = I know it because it is commonly referred to in all dialects and also I have read a very good explanation why we should write å°»å·� as the recommended characters from a point of view from history and sounds, which I would like to share with all here:
    
                http://blog.roodo.com/limkianhui/archives/957102.html
    
    

  在閩å�—，泉州/廈門/å�Œå®‰/å�°ç�£ï¼Œæ‰€èªªçš„“kha-chhng”（國際音標：kÊ°a  tsʰŋ。其本義是普通話的「肛門ã€�，但在閩å�—有時也用來泛指「å±�è‚¡ã€�），這在漳州讀為kha-chhuiâ�¿ï¼ˆåœ‹éš›éŸ³æ¨™ï¼škÊ°a  tsÊ°Å©i）。而這個閩å�—詞，論其本字，如上é�¢huangvudik兄所言，有學者很多都考釋為「尻å·�ã€�。其中，「尻ã€�應該是無å�¯é�žç¾©çš„，å•�é¡Œå�ªå‡ºåœ¨ã€Œå·�ã€�字。一般地，我們考釋閩å�—語（或其它漢系語言），最基本的，首先會å°�應到「中å�¤éŸ³ã€�（所謂中å�¤ï¼Œå�³å”�代左å�³å�§ï¼Œå†�往上應算為上å�¤ï¼‰ã€‚所以，我們去查中å�¤éŸ³ï¼Œç™¼ç�¾ã€Œå·�ã€�是屬於:「昌æ¯�仙韻ã€�ã€�å±±æ”�å�ˆå�£ä¸‰ç­‰å­—ã€�å��切為「昌ç¸�切ã€�。這是什麽æ„�æ€�呢？就是說，「å·�ã€�çš„è�²æ¯�是"昌"（tsʰ），韻æ¯�是"ä»™"（uan），所以把è�²ã€�韻æ¯�組å�ˆèµ·ä¾†ï¼Œåœ¨é–©å�—語文讀音中就表é�”為就是"tsÊ°uan"，當然在普通話中是表é�”為"chuan"（這是漢語拼音）。接著往下說（當然，如果你ä¸�看，我就白說了，XD~~）——
  
  é–©å�—語語音有分「文讀音ã€�和「白話音ã€�（有的人說“白讀音”）。這個嘛，我們拿廈門/泉州話來打個比方，「两ã€�這個字，文讀音是"lióng"，而白話音有二個，一是「两个三个ã€�的「两ã€�，讀為"nnÌ„g"（國際音標：lÅ‹ ）；二是「斤兩ã€�的「兩ã€�，讀為"niú"（國際音標: niu ）。你如果直到ç�¾åœ¨é‚„在看帖å­�，那麽相信你ç�¾åœ¨æ‡‰è©²æ˜Žç™½æ€Žéº½å›žäº‹äº†å�§ã€‚好，如果還有興趣，我就接著說——
  
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  sole = 骹尺 also 骹尺底; 骹底 is mandarinised Hokkien.

  toe = 骹指頭  and éª¹æŒ‡ you understand

  big/first toe =  usage commonly 骹拇指 in the past; 骹大指 more common nowadays

  2nd toe = 骹二指; 3rd toe = 骹三指; 4th 骹四指

  last toe = 骹尾指; 骹兮è�½å°¾èœ€éš»æŒ‡ is ok.

  arch = 骹翹

  instep = 骹背 the part opposite of the sole where the strap of the slipper or the shoe vamp rest on. Lower instep is called 骹盘 covering the connecting toe 五掌筋.
  

   

  heel = 骹後蹬 is well understand; 骹å�¢è¹¬ I never heard of this term.

  ankle = 骹目

  shin = 骹鼻è�” the part bony part that join the ankle and the knee; always angle on both end so look line a nose I suppose that the origin.

  calf = 骹肚 correction: my error in early writing
  

  knee = 骹頭å�ž actual the cap (in Hokkein as docking point) for the tibia (shinbone) and femur (thighbone).

  thigh = 骹腿 correction: my error in early writing

  buttock = explained by you clearly

  anus = å°»å·�空 

   

  I'll do the hand another day. going to sleep.

  

   

   

   

   

   

• BanguIzai

  27 Jul 11, 01:00

  Originally posted by Clivebenss:

  sole = 骹尺 also 骹尺底; 骹底 is mandarinised Hokkien.

  toe = 骹指頭  and éª¹æŒ‡ you understand

  big/first toe =  usage commonly 骹拇指 in the past; 骹大指 more common nowadays

  2nd toe = 骹二指; 3rd toe = 骹三指; 4th 骹四指

  last toe = 骹尾指; 骹兮è�½å°¾èœ€éš»æŒ‡ is ok.

  arch = 骹翹

  instep = 骹背 the part opposite of the sole where the strap of the slipper or the shoe vamp rest on. Lower instep is called 骹盘 covering the connecting toe 五掌筋.
  

   

  heel = 骹後蹬 is well understand; 骹å�¢è¹¬ I never heard of this term.

  ankle = 骹目

  shin = 骹鼻è�” the part bony part that join the ankle and the knee; always angle on both end so look line a nose I suppose that the origin.

  calf = 骹肚 correction: my error in early writing
  

  knee = 骹頭å�ž actual the cap (in Hokkein as docking point) for the tibia (shinbone) and femur (thighbone).

  thigh = 骹腿 correction: my error in early writing

  buttock = explained by you clearly

  anus = å°»å·�空 

   

  I'll do the hand another day. going to sleep.

  

   

   

   

   

   

  • I see, for 骹底
  • 骹背 & 骹盤 are new to me
  • I speculating the "å�¢" in "骹å�¢è¹¬" came from meaning similar to "root", eg. 樹å�¢ tsh'iu tsang
  • Thanks for 骹目
  • 骹鼻é»� is new to me. Thank you.
  • How you know all about these "tibia" and "femur" of our body? Mr Chew Bakar the podiatrist

• Clivebenss

  27 Jul 11, 09:48

  I'm only human.

  

• BanguIzai

  28 Jul 11, 00:48

  �是好儂，我是�鳥儂

• Clivebenss

  28 Jul 11, 12:15

  

• BanguIzai

  29 Jul 11, 00:34

  �鳥 is the simplified form. The more accurate characters are 膦爪, u noe right ?

• Clivebenss

  29 Jul 11, 19:09

  might as well.

  

• BanguIzai

  30 Jul 11, 00:47

  Oh Clivebenss

  I have got the article for KH'A posted

  Please do take a look and some comments