Who is the real beneficiary for taxi fare increases ?
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Originally posted by Rbs70:
In my early early post, the GAME is already over for CDG.....
What left over is those who want to pay card, scare kanna fark, so they on call.....
Someone had say look forward, but seem like he is looking backward.....
3 years ago, I will be TOTALLY agree with that.......
I agree with bro ericgo, SHOW fact.....the only possible way of increasing of earning is to add on that 10% to our fare.......indirectly, we are making someone richer by accepting that 10% PLUS GOVERMENT richer by 7% for every farking trip.....
Why this thread keep going on and on.......because the fact that CDG is collecting that 10% is supported by someone who think they deserve it.....wtf.....
If the bank cut 10%, govt takes 7%, what can we do, my friend, I understand your frustration in letting other earn out of our effort/work. But isn't that how things work in a capitalisation world like Singapore.We pay our power supply bills, our phone bills, our whatever bills, all got 7%Gst, they said up, all up, then once a while give you some freebies like rebate or extra points. In such a world, prepare get exploited, because you are in it, unless you want to go somewhere peaceful and forget about all these shit about Gst or 10% credit.
You go buy things, with credit, no discount, cash, got discount, but people still paid with credit, and firms still accept credit transaction even tho the bank do nothing except providing the software.
You got to be realistic and look at the whole picture, not just TD alone, then maybe you will see and understand how the bourgosis system work, meaning the rich and power class system.
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Originally posted by Khoon2580:
cash or cashless... me also take...
give me foreign curriencies**... also take...
no money to pay.. give me food... give me your shirt... give me ezlink card also can...
but if offer bicycle ride or similiar... den NO NO wor...
taking different modes of payment makes driving more fun..
also makes my daily accounting more interesting...
** muz hav currency convertor in handphone... damn useful...
Stir ah stir....now FX also become TD trade
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Originally posted by OptimalTrans:
Do we really need to further this, at such manner?
There is no significant benefit or losses for accepting/rejecting cashless, comfort card....etc
It is just personal preference.
And trying so hard to convince each other?
In any arguement, the mouth is always open but the ears are close.
There's nothing for me to convince anybody in the first place.........
Is the hard true fact, CDG is collecting that 10% and Goberment collecting 7% of that 10%.........
An argument and a fact is different........
When I'm debating on a true fact, I'm at the upper hand......
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Originally posted by bowah:
If the bank cut 10%, govt takes 7%, what can we do, my friend, I understand your frustration in letting other earn out of our effort/work. But isn't that how things work in a capitalisation world like Singapore.We pay our power supply bills, our phone bills, our whatever bills, all got 7%Gst, they said up, all up, then once a while give you some freebies like rebate or extra points. In such a world, prepare get exploited, because you are in it, unless you want to go somewhere peaceful and forget about all these shit about Gst or 10% credit.
You go buy things, with credit, no discount, cash, got discount, but people still paid with credit, and firms still accept credit transaction even tho the bank do nothing except providing the software.
You got to be realistic and look at the whole picture, not just TD alone, then maybe you will see and understand how the bourgosis system work, meaning the rich and power class system.
Hahaha, bro.......Bo la........
I'm a Credit Card holder also for the past 20 years, I know what you mean in all your posts........
Why CDG cashless system kick off until now, I think should be 4 years liao, still half past six.........they know the reason, but they refuse to acknowledge..........
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You are right, so are other merchandise, service charges of 10% in restuarant also apply here, and the final bill will be charge 7% Gst.
As a patron, you are paying that much, and what services you really get in Singapore?? I do not blame the waiter, or the waitress, because that 10% svc charges goes to the boss bank account, it is up to the boss to keep or give out, but most never give back to the staff, they are just paid the basic salary.
Therefore, when people said singapore servicing people like TD, restuarant or hotel staffs are not good in servicing as compare to other countries, because singapore servicing peoples do not get tipped for their service.
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Originally posted by Rbs70:
Hahaha, bro.......Bo la........
I'm a Credit Card holder also for the past 20 years, I know what you mean in all your posts........
Why CDG cashless system kick off until now, I think should be 4 years liao, still half past six.........they know the reason, but they refuse to acknowledge..........
Certainly, what we see is a direct exploitation of the lower people works, but we have to accept it, because like it or not 66% endorsed them accordingly. The most we can do is wait for the next one to come along. But at the moment, be open and accept what is on the plate, if not, very frustrating and bad for health -
Originally posted by bowah:
Certainly, what we see is a direct exploitation of the lower people works, but we have to accept it, because like it or not 66% endorsed them accordingly. The most we can do is wait for the next one to come along. But at the moment, be open and accept what is on the plate, if not, very frustrating and bad for health
Waw piang, you increase another 5% for them......LHL will be very happy........
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Originally posted by bowah:
You are right, so are other merchandise, service charges of 10% in restuarant also apply here, and the final bill will be charge 7% Gst.
10% service charge is earn by restaurant itself either paying by cash or credit.
For cab companies only pay merchant fee of 3% than wat happen to the other 7%
There is always a reason for certain aggressive marketing. After all the one footing the bills for such ads are not the cabs companies.
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But then as long as we get what we are paid for, how they market their wares is up to the consumer (pax) to decide his opportunity cost. Some people use credit cards on all things, because it safe them the accounting, when the bills come, they have a clear picture of what they spent and which one to claim from their companies, and some cards like Diner and Amex are corporate cards, if no use, it a waste to them.
Like if I go oversea work, the contracted company is sure to issue me an Amex, anything use out of it, can only claim if that particular merchandise was proven they do not accept Amex, if not anything out of own pocket, cannot be claim.
In personal terms, there is also deal whereby if the person spend above certain amount, he gets rewards or free trip to somewhere, all this marketing induce peoples to use CC, they would had calculated the sum, not that pple who use it do not know that there will be charges.
Yes, that is what I said, 10% svc charges goes to the boss of the restuarant, so, are you going to expect people who serve you to serve well? what if that 10% is given to the svc peoples, do think our singapore service standard will improve??
There are lots of behind the scene banking works that only want profit, from venturing with Taxi company to other organisation, both will seek a gain gain situation from the consumers, and as consumers, they may bought the bank shares, sell at booming period like now, or take dividends, so they got the spending power to pay the fees which indirectly plough back into their pocket later.
Economy is an ecology at works, if one fail to function, it needs bankers, economist and financial peoples to examine it and make sure it start to rotate, and on the way, some gain more, some gain less, but as long as all are in a win win situation, cash or cashless is not a matter, for TD, the matter is between OBK or Huat
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There are lots of NGO and profit organisation bought CDG shares, with a dividend of 2.7%, last year was around 2.5 % why put inside bank and earn that pathetic low interest. As public listed, many singaporeans also had bought cdg shares, even the ministers are buying it, it not only support but also gain from it.
And to some, what they gain from it in comparing to paying Taxis fare with CC is nothing. And also for that matter, they most likely will take Cdg
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Originally posted by Rbs70:
Waw piang, you increase another 5% for them......LHL will be very happy........
Same mah, do you know when people died, I must add another 5 years for them, same goes to singapore... since died in the hand of those 61%, add another 5% to jam it up. -
Originally posted by bowah:
Same mah, do you know when people died, I must add another 5 years for them, same goes to singapore... since died in the hand of those 61%, add another 5% to jam it up.can add 5 years if got four or five genrations in mourning...
norm is add 3 years for three generations or less in mourning...
if got four generations in mournng... the ancestor tablet as below:
显考四代大父陈府�亚�公神�
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Originally posted by Rbs70:
Oh, rest assure, I do what I preach.......
My cab might be the only 1 without car decal......I'm notoriously in office also......
Read all posts properly and carefully before making judgement for newbies, ok....
I also no decal leh....because everyday wind down/up windows to air my cab after smoking..lol
But still I accept cashless cos no need to deposit money at the CDM.
For relief cashless means no money to pay hirer? End of the day just go back to do internet transfer to hirer loh. Dun tell me bank inside dun have $60?
The real reason I can think of those who dun take cashless is really hard up for money. Etc owe ah long, need cash to whack 4D, Horse...hard cord gamblers. A normal person wun have such problems lah....
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Actually a good way to deter the pax from cashless is tell them got extra charge 10% bank charge and 7% GST. Most will kanna snook thought is 17% then guai guai take cash. But I know some credit card got rebate the surcharge to the pax.
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Originally posted by hammerhammer8888:
I also no decal leh....because everyday wind down/up windows to air my cab after smoking..lol
But still I accept cashless cos no need to deposit money at the CDM.
For relief cashless means no money to pay hirer? End of the day just go back to do internet transfer to hirer loh. Dun tell me bank inside dun have $60?
The real reason I can think of those who dun take cashless is really hard up for money. Etc owe ah long, need cash to whack 4D, Horse...hard cord gamblers. A normal person wun have such problems lah....
wah.. u really know my problem cos i dun take cashless.. -
Originally posted by JLKL:
wah.. u really know my problem cos i dun take cashless..Yah like to whack 4D right
Open liao keep quiet right
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Originally posted by hammerhammer8888:
I also no decal leh....because everyday wind down/up windows to air my cab after smoking..lol
But still I accept cashless cos no need to deposit money at the CDM.
For relief cashless means no money to pay hirer? End of the day just go back to do internet transfer to hirer loh. Dun tell me bank inside dun have $60?
The real reason I can think of those who dun take cashless is really hard up for money. Etc owe ah long, need cash to whack 4D, Horse...hard cord gamblers. A normal person wun have such problems lah....
Total Rental. $40,833.11
Total Call Levy. $871.91
OTotal Amount. $41,705.02
Bro, from start until now, me never mention I totally don accept cashless....
I did say before, no issue for Nets/ezlink, will boycott Cabcharge.....credit card is because of admin fee......I work, they earn, where got such thing in life 1.....
My last year summary, me just an average driver....
There is many kind of situation drivers don accept cards beside those points you had highlight.......drink kopi with poor man more often, listen to their plight......
There is many many genuine cases out there.......
How hirer or relief work, me TOTALLY no experience at all.....OMO since day 1, so never commented that before, should be by someone else.......
Although admin fee and GST are borne by the pax, but guys do remember, that pax might be someone you know, ie your wife, your parent, your children...etc......if I myself can't get pass myself mentally, HOW to condone to what CDG been practicing....
If I had to touch on, how I had been dealing with those "idiot" since day 1 when cashless was implemented.....this thread might hit 80pages very fast.......
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Originally posted by bowah:
But then as long as we get what we are paid for, how they market their wares is up to the consumer (pax) to decide his opportunity cost. Some people use credit cards on all things, because it safe them the accounting, when the bills come, they have a clear picture of what they spent and which one to claim from their companies, and some cards like Diner and Amex are corporate cards, if no use, it a waste to them.
Like if I go oversea work, the contracted company is sure to issue me an Amex, anything use out of it, can only claim if that particular merchandise was proven they do not accept Amex, if not anything out of own pocket, cannot be claim.
In personal terms, there is also deal whereby if the person spend above certain amount, he gets rewards or free trip to somewhere, all this marketing induce peoples to use CC, they would had calculated the sum, not that pple who use it do not know that there will be charges.
Yes, that is what I said, 10% svc charges goes to the boss of the restuarant, so, are you going to expect people who serve you to serve well? what if that 10% is given to the svc peoples, do think our singapore service standard will improve??
There are lots of behind the scene banking works that only want profit, from venturing with Taxi company to other organisation, both will seek a gain gain situation from the consumers, and as consumers, they may bought the bank shares, sell at booming period like now, or take dividends, so they got the spending power to pay the fees which indirectly plough back into their pocket later.
Economy is an ecology at works, if one fail to function, it needs bankers, economist and financial peoples to examine it and make sure it start to rotate, and on the way, some gain more, some gain less, but as long as all are in a win win situation, cash or cashless is not a matter, for TD, the matter is between OBK or Huat
Reading your reply damn stress......
Got to read through 2, 3 times over and over again because me only 'O' level, but you Sex 2........
But very resourceful........thumb up........
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Originally posted by ericgo:
10% service charge is earn by restaurant itself either paying by cash or credit.
For cab companies only pay merchant fee of 3% than wat happen to the other 7%
There is always a reason for certain aggressive marketing. After all the one footing the bills for such ads are not the cabs companies.
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Originally posted by Khoon2580:
can add 5 years if got four or five genrations in mourning...
norm is add 3 years for three generations or less in mourning...
if got four generations in mournng... the ancestor tablet as below:
显考四代大父陈府�亚�公神�
Like that if 1 day, my in-law pass away, will add 5 years.......thank you for the info........
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Originally posted by bowah:
Same mah, do you know when people died, I must add another 5 years for them, same goes to singapore... since died in the hand of those 61%,
add another 5% to jam it up.
Knn......you know 5% of voters equal to how many people?.......
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Originally posted by JLKL:
wah.. u really know my problem cos i dun take cashless..I wanted to post the same thing but you were too fast... LOL.
Dunno brudder hammer can tolong tolong or not.
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Originally posted by Khoon2580:
cash or cashless... me also take...
give me foreign curriencies**... also take...
no money to pay.. give me food... give me your shirt... give me ezlink card also can...
but if offer bicycle ride or similiar... den NO NO wor...
taking different modes of payment makes driving more fun..
also makes my daily accounting more interesting...
** muz hav currency convertor in handphone... damn useful...
if chio bicycle ride also cannot hor.......... yah hor forgot khoon
is a holy man........... kenna me or ah pool jialat liao..............
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Originally posted by Khoon2580:
can add 5 years if got four or five genrations in mourning...
norm is add 3 years for three generations or less in mourning...
if got four generations in mournng... the ancestor tablet as below:
显考四代大父陈府�亚�公神�
You sound like my those sai kongs and ritual monks who drives SLK Merc, too bad you are a TD, but nevermind, as long as happy and honest, good for you brother -
Originally posted by Rbs70:
Knn......you know 5% of voters equal to how many people?.......
knn...national rally give PM some happiness, if not PM kamlan , ok ok, must admit my figure error than you happy hor