Who is the real beneficiary for taxi fare increases ?
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Originally posted by Poolman:
Then at night ....
haha dog farm muz call mickey confirm plus chop 1................
me also can u knoe............ i be the discipline master....................
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Originally posted by Poolman:
I missed my chihuahua .......
knn small dog no fun lar............. tis is my ex dog .............
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Originally posted by Rbs70:
First day know me?.....
I bought the premium pop corn, I can give you some.....
Who's the keyboard warrior? Kua Yen Yen.....lol
me also lip lai liao............... stir ah stir~~~~~~~
got popcorn for me??
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Originally posted by komade:
me also lip lai liao............... stir ah stir~~~~~~~
got popcorn for me??
Mai la......
I saw FI lip lai......me SIAM.....
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Originally posted by Bingjames:
Since u call me uncle, I will not be too petty over u.
really make no sense, from the way u reply, we obviously in different league.
Never mind u higher or lower, anyway, no prize for either right? So u wanna say Uncle no cow sense, also can, lack of depth in character also can, so long as u happy can liao.
As I say, u continue to count your money while I continue to update my bank book. OK?
I wholeheartedly agree that we're of different league n pls do not mislead others into thinking u're so gracious.
I also agree that this is the grand finale for the topic n we should move on.
Gd luck to your future endeavors
Cheers :)
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BJ, to me it is very straight forward. Dun waste yr breath.
To the TD who thinks that fare increase does not benefit him, I say go hv our brains scanned or find another job.
As to anyone who doubts that cashless is the way of the future...he is talking COCK and his eyesight may be even worse than Mr Magoo!!
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My argument is not cashless is useless......
My argument is HOW, CDG using it as a weapon against the TD and benefit from it......
IF they had hidden the 10% admin charges like WHAT all retailers or any business that associate with credit facility do, than I'm fine........FORCING TD to accept cashless is BRAINLESS, try telling CDG to review my hirer agreement, kiam kang only.......
The game soon to be over, UNLESS the scholars think of better solution to it.......at the time being, those think that cashless had benefit their daily taking, please continue to do so.........
And lastly, my "cashless" argument is way out of the origin TS topic, my apologies on that.......
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after a hard day of driving, u guys still have the energy to argue here and there.. after work, relax lah.. dun take things so serious lah..
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me like dogs too...
hav three big mix breed in LCK...
but onli get see them once a week...
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by the way... juz realised...
we are grossly out of topic...
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Originally posted by Techo:
BJ, to me it is very straight forward. Dun waste yr breath.
To the TD who thinks that fare increase does not benefit him, I say go hv our brains scanned or find another job.
As to anyone who doubts that cashless is the way of the future...he is talking COCK and his eyesight may be even worse than Mr Magoo!!
I love pple who make sweeping statements like "As to anyone who doubts that cashless is the way of the future...he is talking COCK and his eyesight may be even worse than Mr Magoo!!"
For discussion sake may I ask when u say cashless, does it apply to taxi payment or in general?
The word future is so abstract, wat is yr timeframe? 1 yr, 3 yrs or 10 yrs? The idea of cashless has been ard for ages but why is cash still being circulated?
AS a TD I'm not too concerned with wat the future holds, I would rather think abt now. When the future finally arrives then we talk abt future, which by then will be now.
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Originally posted by Khoon2580:
by the way... juz realised...
we are grossly out of topic...
tat's how we cool things down when those arguments got a bit tense .
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Originally posted by Happybird95:Originally posted by Techo:
BJ, to me it is very straight forward. Dun waste yr breath.
To the TD who thinks that fare increase does not benefit him, I say go hv our brains scanned or find another job.
I love pple who make sweeping statements like "As to anyone who doubts that cashless is the way of the future...he is talking COCK and his eyesight may be even worse than Mr Magoo!!"
For discussion sake may I ask when u say cashless, does it apply to taxi payment or in general?
The word future is so abstract, wat is yr timeframe? 1 yr, 3 yrs or 10 yrs? The idea of cashless has been ard for ages but why is cash still being circulated?
AS a TD I'm not too concerned with wat the future holds, I would rather think abt now. When the future finally arrives then we talk abt future, which by then will be now.
OOPs!! someone smell blood again.
Yr policing instinct makes you an ideal candidate for a moderator here. If not yr yr gross limitation, I would recommend you for this top job.
I already said u not in the same league here, u dun believe. Whatever people post here, you would just vaguely understand the subject but just grab at it and start barking, most often that not, u barking at the wrong tree.
As a moderator, you will actually be doing more harm than good.
When he meant by cashless here is people using card instead of cash.
To put in plain simple "at your level" English, example, got of 100 trips, maybe 10 people is paying by CARD while the other 90 pay CASH. What he mean is in the near future, more and more people is paying by CARD.
If you cannot or is unwilling to accept CARD, that means out of 10 pax, u cannot do 1 business. Let's say if in the future the number of people paying by CARD increase to 50, that means u will have only a 50-50 chance of doing the business while those who can take card can take 100%
By asking why is cash being circulated, I take it that u understand the term cashless to be no more cash is being used in the society.
We dun have to reach that stage. Just 50% of people paying by CARD is enough to push those people not accepting CARD into the corner. Remember, you only have a 50-50 chance of taking that pax.
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Originally posted by Bingjames:
Why do u ppl say CDG is the real benefit from the recent fare increase?
All the full fare increase goes to driver right?
what CDG take back?
In fact, the company "suffer" from the decrease in calls during that period.
After the increase, comes the decrease in diesel, not once but three times right?
All this while, does the rental increase? NO right? So where does the benefits comes from?
In fact, this 65m is already profit long long ago, the increase got nothing to do with it. In fact, the increases might have eaten part of the profit which might be more.
I think one should know that the big part of the revenue came from the call centre.
In fact, the least profit came from leasing out the taxi to hirers with reliefs. These people really whack the cab 24 hours non stop which results in higher servicing cost.
Maybe the most lucrative sources comes from those hirers OMG with less than 100 km clock a day. As long as money(rental) comes in swee swee everyday, who is making noise? This is the part that LTA got to step in to handle, sooner or later.
So in conclusion, does the increase really makes CDG richer or otherwise?
Customer is always right. Why they say this? Because the cutomer pays for it.
For Taxi Company like CDG, who is the customer? Taxi Driver or Passenger?
Answer is Taxi Driver.
For Taxi Driver, who is the customer?
Answer is Taxi Passenger.
I am trying my best to break things down so you can understand.
Now who is the millionare? Taxi Driver or Taxi Company?
You argued that Taxi Company never increase fares for so many years.
Who controls fare increases? Taxi Drivers or Taxi Companies?
Who is the millionare after all the increases?
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wat fare increase?
looked back at my records for last year around this time...
my collection for $ per km hired was higher den now...
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Originally posted by Khoon2580:
wat fare increase?
looked back at my records for last year around this time...
my collection for $ per km hired was higher den now...
so you are saying, taxi drivers benefit from fare increases set by taxi companies?
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Originally posted by JLKL:
after a hard day of driving, u guys still have the energy to argue here and there.. after work, relax lah.. dun take things so serious lah..
You hard day of driving meh? Work also idle...relax time also idle...you of cos no need to take things so serious lah -
Bear in mind, my point of argument on that ADMIN FEE don't just appy to TD, it does influence the general public of Singaporean mindset.....
Some time back, someone wrote in to ST forum on this, guess what's CDG reply?......Cashless is just an alternative mode of payment, Customers do have the option to pay cash in order to avoid the 10% admin charges.......
Than back on our yard, CDG make it compulsory to accept CASHLESS......throwing the PROBLEM for us to handle, FAIR?......
Currently, people who don't mind paying card are those knn spending their Ah Gong money type.....ie company corporate card, PERSONAL CARD? Try telling my wife to do so.........
SO, over the past few years, CDG farking aggressive on their CABCHARGE business......in time to come, HOPEFULLY it's became another powerful tool for them to have an edge over the market........
During my Limousine Driving.......hourly disposal can amount to thousand of dollars, when pax want to pay by card, will tell them about the admin fee......they will ask, is it belong to your earning?......No! Than they rather pay me in CASH or CHEQUE.....YOUR HARDWORK SHOULDN'T BE SHARE BY SOMEBODY WHO DID NOTHING.......
Ok, drive safe and have a good days!.....CHEERS!.....
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Going into credit and cards is also a cost to the bank, it still need to maintain and issue free annual fees cards, I will take it as an option for businesses, given the open options of paying, you get your pax without even the need to maintain the line, the gps, the equipment and the IT applications which also need to be maintain.
Therefore, it is up to individual different angles of perspectives, the end cost is still the customers. From the perspectives of the Taxi companies, of course, given all taxis get rented out and income become stagnated, the option for extra income will be deem as productivity.
From the Taxi driver point of view, it allow us to handle global customers within that terminal alone and that translate into better business.
From the customer view, it give them the convienences and easier accountability thru their bank account.
And from the banks view of point, it is business as usual
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Originally posted by PS2U:
so you are saying, taxi drivers benefit from fare increases set by taxi companies?
u driving taxi?
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Originally posted by Bingjames:
OOPs!! someone smell blood again.
Yr policing instinct makes you an ideal candidate for a moderator here. If not yr yr gross limitation, I would recommend you for this top job.
I already said u not in the same league here, u dun believe. Whatever people post here, you would just vaguely understand the subject but just grab at it and start barking, most often that not, u barking at the wrong tree.
As a moderator, you will actually be doing more harm than good.
When he meant by cashless here is people using card instead of cash.
To put in plain simple "at your level" English, example, got of 100 trips, maybe 10 people is paying by CARD while the other 90 pay CASH. What he mean is in the near future, more and more people is paying by CARD.
If you cannot or is unwilling to accept CARD, that means out of 10 pax, u cannot do 1 business. Let's say if in the future the number of people paying by CARD increase to 50, that means u will have only a 50-50 chance of doing the business while those who can take card can take 100%
By asking why is cash being circulated, I take it that u understand the term cashless to be no more cash is being used in the society.
We dun have to reach that stage. Just 50% of people paying by CARD is enough to push those people not accepting CARD into the corner. Remember, you only have a 50-50 chance of taking that pax.
When I read yr reply, my immediate response was "talk to my hand". The moment you open your mouth, yr tongue stings just like a mosquito. Thank you for your recommendation for me to be a moderator but it's too tedious for me I must say.
What league are you talking abt uncle? Premier league or S league? Personally I prefer La Liga :) are you living in India whereby caste system still exist? Making sweeping statements and antangonizing others will naturally attract responses. It is you who is clouded by anger that barks aimlessly without understanding and mostly rebut with twisted points I must say.
I am not a moderator and thanks for thinking I'm one but that's wat a forum is abt, discuss and exchange views be it pleasant or not.
Pls do not explain to me wat cashless means as its a waste of bandwidth. Again you wanna degrade a discussion by explaining things at "my level and plain English". I must admit my command of English is no where near many pple here but still able to grasp most words. Problem starts when pple starts stringing words into sentences which sounds like barking or hissing like a rattlesnake which makes me ponder and hence I need to clarify via questions.
You talk abt future trends, the future sounds very distant to me. If one day more and more pay by cashless, I'm sure many cabbies will accept it. Wat we should be concern is now and TDs in general are an adaptive lot. dun use future to bulldoze your argument for it sounds like leaders/bosses promising things that never materialize.
Thank you for agreeing that we have not reach the stage whereby payment hasn't reach a saturation pt till cabbies can't ignore cashless payment. Till that day comes my man, we will adapt n accept but for now cash is still king.
P.s. I wholeheartedly agree with rbs for not supporting cashless if there's nothing for us.
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Originally posted by PS2U:
Customer is always right. Why they say this? Because the cutomer pays for it.
For Taxi Company like CDG, who is the customer? Taxi Driver or Passenger?
Answer is Taxi Driver.
For Taxi Driver, who is the customer?
Answer is Taxi Passenger.
I am trying my best to break things down so you can understand.
Now who is the millionare? Taxi Driver or Taxi Company?
You argued that Taxi Company never increase fares for so many years.
Who controls fare increases? Taxi Drivers or Taxi Companies?
Who is the millionare after all the increases?
Before I carry on, I need to do some clarification. U highlighted my post and said You argued that Taxi Company never increase fares for so many years. Since when did I said that?
Your view on "customer is always right" also need to be evaluated.
I agreed with you on the following:
Taxi Driver is Taxi Companies' customer
Passenger is NOT Taxi Companies' customer but Taxi Driver's customers.
Btw, u have yet to answer Red5xx question on whether you are TD but at this moment let's take it that you are.
As u said "Customer is always right" right? Do u qualify your customers?
Answer is both a YES and NO right?
what are the qualification that TD use?
Too far - dun fetch
More than one person - dun fetch. (from someone here who taught me that 4 persons means 4 destinations)
Racial issue : for fear of racial discrimination, I will not touch on the "don't" but ang mo sure is a "must fetch" right? cos most of the time, short trip. and most of the time, got tips right?
Outside CBD dun fetch - no extra $3
No booking - dun fetch - no extra $3.30
best if got booking and CBD charges right?
Wheel chair pax - dun fetch, even tho they still pay the same fare right? but to u too troublesome.
any one here who want to declare that he is not guilty of any of the above, I ask him dun talk cock.
If you are a TD has got the "right" to choose your customers, why Taxi companies cannot leh?
Drivers who want to rent car to earn money but cannot pay rent on time?
Driver who dun take care of their car?
Drivers who overcharge pax?
Drivers who doesn't share the companies culture or image.
Does Taxi companies has the right to choose not to have these customers? Answer is also a YES and a NO.
The key issue is "Supply and demand"
I know of LV members who die die refuse to help fetch hotel's staff home, just because of no call charge - $3. But once after midnight, the whole mindset change. These jobs are being grab like no body's business. Reason? after midnight amount of people taking cab decrease liao la.
Look at the queue of pax at MBFC and Suntec City's four towers. From 5pm to 9pm, pax are literally begging for cab but even if they book, also cannot get one, while just outside, u can see green light taxi circling around waiting for calls for obvious reasons. But once past 10pm, the whole senario change right? Long queues of taxi can be seen at the same location as amount of pax decreases.
Same here for Taxi companies - if companies got no takers, regulations is obviously more relax and TD can be seen in round neck Tee and even slippers. Even if pax complain, heard the the complain hotline in some companies is always engaged.
So it's just the case of "supply and demand" right?
CDG can afford to pick and choose their customers cos they got plenty outside waiting for them, same reason as at 3am, plenty of pax at Clark Quay for me to pick and choose. If u still thinking of customers is always right at this juncture, pick up someone who wants to go Woodlands now la.
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Originally posted by PS2U:
Customer is always right. Why they say this? Because the cutomer pays for it.
For Taxi Company like CDG, who is the customer? Taxi Driver or Passenger?
Answer is Taxi Driver.
For Taxi Driver, who is the customer?
Answer is Taxi Passenger.
I am trying my best to break things down so you can understand.
Now who is the millionare? Taxi Driver or Taxi Company?
You argued that Taxi Company never increase fares for so many years.
Who controls fare increases? Taxi Drivers or Taxi Companies?
Who is the millionare after all the increases?
People who really bother to read this thread should knows that my starting point is to say that the recent increase has got minimum impact on CDG's profit of $65m.
In simpler terms, that mean even NO INCREASE, CDG already make that $65m liao.
If u are talking on the actual effect of the increase, my opinion is that it actually bring down the figure instead of up, while means without the increase, the actual figure might be even $70m or more.
After the increase, a significant decrease in calls is noted. Lesser people on road taking taxi too. Levy for current calls also decrease. Although advance calls goes up to $8, quantity of calls plunges. Can I ask where the increase in company's revenue came from?
So my point is "the recent price increase dun make the company richer" they already are there even without the increase.
Another point of arguement is after the increase, more people joining in. More people joining in also must have taxi more them to drive. I got my cab BEFORE the price increase and the waiting time is already 3 months. This point is more valid for companies with lots of cab park in their premise but not CDG.
But if you said more people joining in as relief, I can buy that point. But this point only benefit hirers who should find it easier to find relief and can even pick and choose, like me, heeheehee.
The ony thing the company benefit is maybe with more relief drivers, the cab gets to be whack for longer hours which result in higher diesel sales but dun forget, it will also bring the cost of maintenance up due to more wear and tear.
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Originally posted by Rbs70:
Bear in mind, my point of argument on that ADMIN FEE don't just appy to TD, it does influence the general public of Singaporean mindset.....
Some time back, someone wrote in to ST forum on this, guess what's CDG reply?......Cashless is just an alternative mode of payment, Customers do have the option to pay cash in order to avoid the 10% admin charges.......
Than back on our yard, CDG make it compulsory to accept CASHLESS......throwing the PROBLEM for us to handle, FAIR?......
Currently, people who don't mind paying card are those knn spending their Ah Gong money type.....ie company corporate card, PERSONAL CARD? Try telling my wife to do so.........
SO, over the past few years, CDG farking aggressive on their CABCHARGE business......in time to come, HOPEFULLY it's became another powerful tool for them to have an edge over the market........
During my Limousine Driving.......hourly disposal can amount to thousand of dollars, when pax want to pay by card, will tell them about the admin fee......they will ask, is it belong to your earning?......No! Than they rather pay me in CASH or CHEQUE.....YOUR HARDWORK SHOULDN'T BE SHARE BY SOMEBODY WHO DID NOTHING.......
Ok, drive safe and have a good days!.....CHEERS!.....
I really dunno how u see this to be a problem, no matter how I tried to put myself in your position.
The charge is to the pax, not hidden but clearly stated. The pax got the choice to use or not to use it.
But what problem are you talking about about u accepting cashless? U mean the few seconds it cost u to process the transaction?
..YOUR HARDWORK SHOULDN'T BE SHARE BY SOMEBODY WHO DID NOTHING.......
and what hard work are you talking about? The fees for the hard work in fetching your pax is in the taxi fare right? Your so called hard work is processing the cashless transaction? Are u saying you also want a cut of that in order to be fair?
I got pax who wants to know who takes the $8 advance booking fees. If it's me, they say it's fair, if it all goes to the company, they say it's not. But when they know $1 goes to the company, they think it make sense cos without the company and the cost of maintaining the system, I would not even get to earn the taxi fare, not to mention the $1.
But about a cut in the admin fee? i dunno. What's yr take Guys?
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Originally posted by Happybird95:
Problem starts when pple starts stringing words into sentences which sounds like barking or hissing like a rattlesnake which makes me ponder and hence I need to clarify via questions.
Ya, u got it right!
who is the one who started hissing and barking first.
Who is the one who successfuly make a total deviation to this topic that now has dog breeding and money lending as it's sub topic.
Now ppl even getting popcorn ready to enjoy! Hope u not senile horr.
U sure real crowd puller la, with all your antics.