Regconition of Degrees from different University
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Originally posted by skythewood:
If you study overseas in a university of mediocre standing compared to singapore, you probably did it because you cannot get into local uni.
Because it is more expensive, less recognized, spend time away from home.
Unless you get a scholarship, or the uni is better, than go even though you can qualify for local uni.
Besides, the overseas government just want your money, not your citizenship unless you are from a good enough uni. Not all countries is foreignor friendly like singapore...
are e.g. australian state unis mediocre standing?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
if u read his posts, think he is only interested to go overseas to experience the four seasons and make friends.
wait until he gets fereeze in winter time and burn in summer time,,dont worry he will catch the next flight and return.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
If you study overseas in a university of mediocre standing compared to singapore, you probably did it because you cannot get into local uni.
Because it is more expensive, less recognized, spend time away from home.
Unless you get a scholarship, or the uni is better, than go even though you can qualify for local uni.
Besides, the overseas government just want your money, not your citizenship unless you are from a good enough uni. Not all countries is foreignor friendly like singapore...
i agree. not that it is not recognised, just that yr employer will not think too highly of such mediocre overseas uni
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Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
are e.g. australian state unis mediocre standing?
yes, aust uni are generally considered mediocre. i'm not discriminating, but let's face it, we know that most ppl head to aust becos they can't get into local uni.
If i'm in HR and with 2 resume, one from local uni and the other from some ulu aust uni, i'll definitely pick the s'pore one
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Originally posted by candiz:
yes, aust uni are generally considered mediocre. i'm not discriminating, but let's face it, we know that most ppl head to aust becos they can't get into local uni.
If i'm in HR and with 2 resume, one from local uni and the other from some ulu aust uni, i'll definitely pick the s'pore one
Yes, every degree is supposed to be recognised but every employer has their own preference of universities. Similarly, if you graduate from a univerisity in Singapore and try to apply for job elsewhere, the employer might not favour you and will pick graduates from their own local universities instead. By the way, I heard that our local universities send many of their students to overseas universities for exchange programmes but very few students from overseas universities are willing to come over to our local unis. -
Originally posted by Snoopy81:
Yes, every degree is supposed to be recognised but every employer has their own preference of universities. Similarly, if you graduate from a univerisity in Singapore and try to apply for job elsewhere, the employer might not favour you and will pick graduates from their own local universities instead. By the way, I heard that our local universities send many of their students to overseas universities for exchange programmes but very few students from overseas universities are willing to come over to our local unis.those students have same mindset as most asians, that the 'western' uni are always better
in fact, uni with students of the very best calibre are found in the national universities, esp India and China. Times magazine previosly featured an article regarding Indian Uni, and said that some Indian students go to ivy league sch becos they can't get into the Indian big 2 Unis, so u can imagine the calibre of those in the Uni itself, scary
if now u hav an exchange with an India U and a US U, i guess most will opt for the US Uni, even if it is not as good as the India U
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one NUS professor after looking at my grades told me I, a poly grad has my fair share of education... and that i should leave the vacancy to 'A' level grads...
well, that explains everything...
i then went on to an australia uni and never looked back...
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Originally posted by GHoST_18:
one NUS professor after looking at my grades told me I, a poly grad has my fair share of education... and that i should leave the vacancy to 'A' level grads...
well, that explains everything...
i then went on to an australia uni and never looked back...
*pat *pat ~
din noe they ar so mean.. the working world will be like this too nxt time, so must be prepared ya
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working life sucks...
i still prefer schooling...
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Originally posted by GHoST_18:
working life sucks...
i still prefer schooling...
lol, not like u can study forever
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studying in SIM, is it bad idea?
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Originally posted by candiz:
lol, not like u can study forever
i dun think i can...
but my uni classmate is doing that...
she brings her kids to tutorials and lectures...
they play in the hall while she does her work...
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But no matter what, as long u willing to upgrade(study), it is a good thing. rather then, not upgrade at all and lack behind. the above sentence was translated to me by one of a boss in a top bank industy. Look like yeah, got study got hope, no study no hope lol
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Originally posted by GHoST_18:
one NUS professor after looking at my grades told me I, a poly grad has my fair share of education... and that i should leave the vacancy to 'A' level grads...
well, that explains everything...
i then went on to an australia uni and never looked back...
That's the mentality of our govt & staff in local unis. They mentioned several times about increasing the uni intake but it seems that they are not interested to give more places to poly grads. A' level grads are the first to be considered which I think is quite fair. Next, they will consider foreigners and left-over places are given to poly grads. I guess the govt heavily subsidised for our poly education therefore they are not interested to subsidise for our uni education anymore. But then when many Sinagporeans head overseas for furthur education, they bring a large sum of $ out of the country which benefits the country they go to. -
Originally posted by Snoopy81:
That's the mentality of our govt & staff in local unis. They mentioned several times about increasing the uni intake but it seems that they are not interested to give more places to poly grads. A' level grads are the first to be considered which I think is quite fair. Next, they will consider foreigners and left-over places are given to poly grads. I guess the govt heavily subsidised for our poly education therefore they are not interested to subsidise for our uni education anymore. But then when many Sinagporeans head overseas for furthur education, they bring a large sum of $ out of the country which benefits the country they go to.dont understand why it take the govt so long to realise anything...
s'poreans give a large sum of money to foreign unis , if the govt was just more accomodating, they will get extra revenue from those poly grads...
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Originally posted by Snoopy81:
That's the mentality of our govt & staff in local unis. They mentioned several times about increasing the uni intake but it seems that they are not interested to give more places to poly grads. A' level grads are the first to be considered which I think is quite fair. Next, they will consider foreigners and left-over places are given to poly grads. I guess the govt heavily subsidised for our poly education therefore they are not interested to subsidise for our uni education anymore. But then when many Sinagporeans head overseas for furthur education, they bring a large sum of $ out of the country which benefits the country they go to.
i dun think so, i'm a poly grad who found a place in ntu. Nowdays alot of poly grads are entering local uni, but there are still some points to note.A diploma is so easy to "pass", copy from friends and study one day before the exam. hence, there will be some cut off point to maintain the standard of student getting in. just like if your A level result sucks i dun think you can get into local uni too. so if you just pass your dip(gpa<3.5) i dun think you work hard enough..... -
Originally posted by Mymoja:
i dun think so, i'm a poly grad who found a place in ntu. Nowdays alot of poly grads are entering local uni, but there are still some points to note.A diploma is so easy to "pass", copy from friends and study one day before the exam. hence, there will be some cut off point to maintain the standard of student getting in. just like if your A level result sucks i dun think you can get into local uni too. so if you just pass your dip(gpa<3.5) i dun think you work hard enough.....
jc does not equal local uni place, those who don't do well are also turned away n go overseas to study
afterall, in the first place, the academically stronger students go to JC, dat's why more will go to local uni too. if it was the other way round, where better students go poly, the reverse will happen
at the end of the day, it all depend on the calibre of the student herself
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Originally posted by Mymoja:
i dun think so, i'm a poly grad who found a place in ntu. Nowdays alot of poly grads are entering local uni, but there are still some points to note.A diploma is so easy to "pass", copy from friends and study one day before the exam. hence, there will be some cut off point to maintain the standard of student getting in. just like if your A level result sucks i dun think you can get into local uni too. so if you just pass your dip(gpa<3.5) i dun think you work hard enough.....
Yes, you can say it is rather easy to pass exams in poly. That is because the focus is more on hand-ons and a large percentage of the grade is based on assignments and projects. Therefore to score good grades, you will also need to put in effort to do well in projects as well. Similarly, A'level students who are academically brighter may not do so well if they are in poly as they may be lacking in terms of creativity. I agree with you that there should be a minimum standard or entry requirements for our local unis. It is not true to say that those poly grads who didn't manage to get a place in our local unis did not do well enough in poly. I have several friends who acheived above average results and one of them was even in the top few percentage since he got a cert of merit. None of them manage to get a place. The issue is not that they don't do well enough but rather very few places are allocated for poly grads. The situation is very different in another country where students with good results go to a good university and those with lousy results go to a not-so-good university. Nobody is deprieved of university education. We are aware of the numerous achievements and awards which our poly grads won in international competitions and it proves that many of them are of good calibre who certainly deserve a place in our local unis. It is very demoralising to see poly grads with quite impressive results spending so much money for education overseas. It is so unfair for this group of people that even their parents have to beg, borrow or steal to ensure that they receive university education. We shouldn't blame a handful of them who take up permanent residence or citizenship in the other country since our country did not even give them a chance to complete university education. We would have done so if we were in their shoes. -
Originally posted by Snoopy81:
Yes, you can say it is rather easy to pass exams in poly. That is because the focus is more on hand-ons and a large percentage of the grade is based on assignments and projects. Therefore to score good grades, you will also need to put in effort to do well in projects as well. Similarly, A'level students who are academically brighter may not do so well if they are in poly as they may be lacking in terms of creativity. I agree with you that there should be a minimum standard or entry requirements for our local unis. It is not true to say that those poly grads who didn't manage to get a place in our local unis did not do well enough in poly. I have several friends who acheived above average results and one of them was even in the top few percentage since he got a cert of merit. None of them manage to get a place. The issue is not that they don't do well enough but rather very few places are allocated for poly grads. The situation is very different in another country where students with good results go to a good university and those with lousy results go to a not-so-good university. Nobody is deprieved of university education. We are aware of the numerous achievements and awards which our poly grads won in international competitions and it proves that many of them are of good calibre who certainly deserve a place in our local unis. It is very demoralising to see poly grads with quite impressive results spending so much money for education overseas. It is so unfair for this group of people that even their parents have to beg, borrow or steal to ensure that they receive university education. We shouldn't blame a handful of them who take up permanent residence or citizenship in the other country since our country did not even give them a chance to complete university education. We would have done so if we were in their shoes.if u are good, u are good, i don't think it matters where you come from. all this poly / jc debate is so lame, pro means pro.
if a poly grad can get into Harvard / Oxford but can't get into NUS, then come find me again, then there's really sthing wrong with the system
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Originally posted by candiz:
yes, aust uni are generally considered mediocre. i'm not discriminating, but let's face it, we know that most ppl head to aust becos they can't get into local uni.
If i'm in HR and with 2 resume, one from local uni and the other from some ulu aust uni, i'll definitely pick the s'pore one
got one exception: ANU -
Originally posted by unclebutcher:
got one exception: ANUhaha, ok ok, i admit ANU is good. But if u can get into ANU, shldn't hav prob getting into the local U
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Originally posted by candiz:
haha, ok ok, i admit ANU is good. But if u can get into ANU, shldn't hav prob getting into the local U
yes ANU reallu good, but ho suh to go to cranberra?
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Originally posted by GHoST_18:
one NUS professor after looking at my grades told me I, a poly grad has my fair share of education... and that i should leave the vacancy to 'A' level grads...
well, that explains everything...
i then went on to an australia uni and never looked back...
That NUS prof seriously suck...
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Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
are e.g. australian state unis mediocre standing?
Definition of university with mediocre standing ==> the standing of the university is mediocre. Asking me "e.g australian state unis mediocre standing?" is just weird.
Australia have so many university you want me to lump them together and grade them as mediocre, excellent or whatever? Let's say USA, which one is mediocre, non state university of harvard? or state university of texas?
I can assume that the "national" university of any country is not bad. It is foolish to assume that the "state" university is not bad. difference is like neighbourhood sec schools or elite sec school in singapore.
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Originally posted by candiz:
if u are good, u are good, i don't think it matters where you come from. all this poly / jc debate is so lame, pro means pro.
if a poly grad can get into Harvard / Oxford but can't get into NUS, then come find me again, then there's really sthing wrong with the system
Ok. Let's not debate cos I agree with you that this is lame. We're slowly getting off-topic.