i'm still pondering (yes, i know its almost the deadline), whether to go to
TPJC, which is 1 hr bus ride OR 40min MRT OR 19min Car Ride (i.e. taxi)
COP is 13; my Net L1R5 is 13 too. Going to JJC would require exactly the same amount of travelling time
Or to go to
SRJC, which is 10min bus ride / car
COP is 18-20 usually, which i deduced that the environment may not be conducive (i was nearly screwed in sec 3 when i failed many subjects due to bad company)
So i've been wondering which would be the better choice,.
A breakdown of my results:
English -- A2
Combined Humans -- B3
E Math -- A2
A Math -- A2
Physics -- A2
Chemistry -- B3
CCA -- B3 (-1)
Or should i bother to put NYJC at first choice and appeal?
TPJC vs SRJC is a close call especially when u factor in the travelling time.
At a glance, percentage of TPJC students going to university (60+) %
'' SRJC students going to university (40+) %
TPJC focus on independent study - you have to revise on your own. On the other hand, SRJC spoonfeeds you and u get excess to excessive consultation.
Environment wise, both JCs have students who want to study as well as playful/slacking students.
Oh, one thing to note is a JC with 20 COP doesn't meant majority of the students have that mark. It simply represents that the highest pointer (Lousiest) student went in with 20 points.
just noticed that srjc don't have H3.
How about YJC v SRJC?
YJC sci = 4-20
SRJC sci = 5-18
and, i know what it doesnt mean the majority are that standard. But by letting students with 20 points in, it shows that the JC is despo for students.. ever heard of, "study well and choose ur jc, not let jc choose you"? or something along that line. Basically, no one can tell what standard their students are at.
go RJC
go the better school. why you care distance? later go overseas uni how? must get used to it now la. there is no distance too great to be travelled for the sake of education.
Originally posted by limywv:Believe me, travelling time is very important for JC students. I count myself lucky for not being inside SAJC. Or else I will have to spend 2 hours to school everyday.
back and forth?
I take about the same time to travel to school. Pasir Ris to Ngee Ann Polytechnic. Go figure.
Go SRJC.
good school so what? you still stupid, The teacher there can make a big difference for you. If you not stupid, go SRJC also no problem.
Originally posted by HollowGrowl:i'm still pondering (yes, i know its almost the deadline), whether to go to
TPJC, which is 1 hr bus ride OR 40min MRT OR 19min Car Ride (i.e. taxi)
COP is 13; my Net L1R5 is 13 too. Going to JJC would require exactly the same amount of travelling time
Or to go to
SRJC, which is 10min bus ride / car
COP is 18-20 usually, which i deduced that the environment may not be conducive (i was nearly screwed in sec 3 when i failed many subjects due to bad company)
So i've been wondering which would be the better choice,.
A breakdown of my results:
English -- A2
Combined Humans -- B3
E Math -- A2
A Math -- A2
Physics -- A2
Chemistry -- B3
CCA -- B3 (-1)
Or should i bother to put NYJC at first choice and appeal?
You don't make the cut off point for NYJC. Unless you have extraordinary grounds (eg. CCA contribution) for appeal, 99% of appeals don't work (otherwise everyone would keep appealing and the cut off point would be useless).
Even though travelling time is definitely an important factor, but your TPJC travelling time isn't that bad. (there are students who travel 2 hours to reach school, now that's bad).
I have students in TPJC and SRJC. TPJC school environment is definitely much healthier and condusive for performance. Eyelessz described it accurately.
I concur with ^tamago^.
Put TPJC as 1st choice, SRJC as 2nd.
Pssst - take H2 Chem!
Originally posted by UltimaOnline:
You don't make the cut off point for NYJC. Unless you have extraordinary grounds (eg. CCA contribution) for appeal, 99% of appeals don't work (otherwise everyone would keep appealing and the cut off point would be useless).
Even though travelling time is definitely an important factor, but your TPJC travelling time isn't that bad. (there are students who travel 2 hours to reach school, now that's bad).
I have students in TPJC and SRJC. TPJC school environment is definitely much healthier and condusive for performance. Eyelessz described it accurately.
I concur with ^tamago^.
Put TPJC as 1st choice, SRJC as 2nd.
Pssst - take H2 Chem!
doesn't time play an important factor too? I heard there's a lot of PW and stuff(CCA, etc) going on. So i'll need all the time i can get. And i live around the bishan area, maybe streetdirectory.com's calculation doesn't factor in traffic.
I think i will be able to handle the worse environment, but how about the teachers? Are the teachers in yjc/srjc as good as those in tpjc?
And, a side question -- Can most 13 pointers handle H3? That'll decide whether yjc is better than srjc ><
oh and i'll most likely be taking pcme
Originally posted by HollowGrowl:
doesn't time play an important factor too? I heard there's a lot of PW and stuff(CCA, etc) going on. So i'll need all the time i can get. And i live around the bishan area, maybe streetdirectory.com's calculation doesn't factor in traffic.
I think i will be able to handle the worse environment, but how about the teachers? Are the teachers in yjc/srjc as good as those in tpjc?
And, a side question -- Can most 13 pointers handle H3? That'll decide whether yjc is better than srjc ><
oh and i'll most likely be taking pcme
YJC supposedly has a cut off point of 14 or 15, but out of the "kindness of our hearts", the YJC school management allows a cut off point of 20. Implying that YJC actually has a higher standard than SRJC.
H3 subjects are 1st year University level subjects, and should only be taken by L1R5 6 pointers or so.
Yes, travelling time is of course important. Every extra minute of sleep you can get affects your performance (which is why ideally all schools should start later, eg. 9pm).
But TPJC really is a better learning environment than SRJC. So ideally, if you can somehow get a car ride from your parents, or if you've a couple of friends staying nearby to pool a taxi ride, etc.
Your decision, ultimately.
Why not join Biochem @ NP? Very good course but abit stressful at times.
Originally posted by UltimaOnline:
YJC supposedly has a cut off point of 14 or 15, but out of the "kindness of our hearts", the YJC school management allows a cut off point of 20. Implying that YJC actually has a higher standard than SRJC.
H3 subjects are 1st year University level subjects, and should only be taken by L1R5 6 pointers or so.
Yes, travelling time is of course important. Every extra minute of sleep you can get affects your performance (which is why ideally all schools should start later, eg. 9pm).
But TPJC really is a better learning environment than SRJC. So ideally, if you can somehow get a car ride from your parents, or if you've a couple of friends staying nearby to pool a taxi ride, etc.
Your decision, ultimately.
i can get a one-way car ride only :/
the only thing stopping me from going srjc is actually the lack of H3. I think i can do it despite the 6 pointer requirement.
So, if i don't want tpjc, yjc would be the better choice?
Of a scale of 1 to 10, how much does the environment mould a person? Like the one you mentioned about tpjc
Originally posted by UltimaOnline:H3 subjects are 1st year University level subjects, and should only be taken by L1R5 6 pointers or so.
No leh, it's not about L1R5 points, it's your performance in year one before the college decides whether you are eligible for H3 subjects. My senior L1R5 13 points scored 4As out of his 6 subjects during his year one and was offered H3 econs and maths...
Anyway, I'm taking H3 Maths this year... Looking forward for the first lecture to start...
Originally posted by HollowGrowl:
i can get a one-way car ride only :/
the only thing stopping me from going srjc is actually the lack of H3. I think i can do it despite the 6 pointer requirement.
So, if i don't want tpjc, yjc would be the better choice?
Of a scale of 1 to 10, how much does the environment mould a person? Like the one you mentioned about tpjc
TPJC offers H3 Maths, Chem and Econs so far...
SRJC, so good, only 10mins from NEL, and Kovan. Across the road got coffeeshop, 2 blocks away got another coffeeshop. How many buses stops service SRJC within a 500m radius? I count no less than 3.
Originally posted by ~N3RD~:No leh, it's not about L1R5 points, it's your performance in year one before the college decides whether you are eligible for H3 subjects. My senior L1R5 13 points scored 4As out of his 6 subjects during his year one and was offered H3 econs and maths...
Anyway, I'm taking H3 Maths this year... Looking forward for the first lecture to start...
I asked him to project the requirements, i.e. expected ones. Ya it's not about l1r5 points ^^
and JAE book says got Physics H3 for TPJC
Originally posted by ~N3RD~:No leh, it's not about L1R5 points, it's your performance in year one before the college decides whether you are eligible for H3 subjects. My senior L1R5 13 points scored 4As out of his 6 subjects during his year one and was offered H3 econs and maths...
Anyway, I'm taking H3 Maths this year... Looking forward for the first lecture to start...
Yes, the statement about L1R5 6 points was meant as a guideline, meaning, H3 is tough. It's meant to be tough. It's up to the individual JC's HOD of course, to decide if your performance in JC1 is up to your taking a H3 subject in JC2.
So the point being, HollowGrowl and ~N3RD~, do give it your all when doing H3 and don't underestimate its challenge. Also make sure your other H2 subjects don't suffer.
>>> So, if i don't want tpjc, yjc would be the better choice? <<<
Compared to SRJC? Yes, probably.
>>> Of a scale of 1 to 10, how much does the environment mould a person? Like the one you mentioned about tpjc <<<
Depends on the individual. Some pple depend a lot on environment, while others are unaffected by the environment.
>>> SRJC, so good, only 10mins from NEL, and Kovan. <<<
True, I actually like the physical location, very heartland-like (the name "Heartland Mall @ Kovan MRT" is apt). It's only the SRJC school environment (tutorials, lectures, extra lessons, stay-back sessions, overtime curriculum, etc), which I gather from my students, is unhealthy, stressful and unconducive for learning and performance. But things change. Teachers, HODs, Principals, students, change. Perhaps the SRJC environment has, or will, changed or improved.
Originally posted by UltimaOnline:
Yes, the statement about L1R5 6 points was meant as a guideline, meaning, H3 is tough. It's meant to be tough. It's up to the individual JC's HOD of course, to decide if your performance in JC1 is up to your taking a H3 subject in JC2.
So the point being, HollowGrowl and ~N3RD~, do give it your all when doing H3 and don't underestimate its challenge. Also make sure your other H2 subjects don't suffer.
>>> So, if i don't want tpjc, yjc would be the better choice? <<<
Compared to SRJC? Yes, probably.
>>> Of a scale of 1 to 10, how much does the environment mould a person? Like the one you mentioned about tpjc <<<
Depends on the individual. Some pple depend a lot on environment, while others are unaffected by the environment.
>>> SRJC, so good, only 10mins from NEL, and Kovan. <<<
True, I actually like the physical location, very heartland-like (the name "Heartland Mall @ Kovan MRT" is apt). It's only the SRJC school environment (tutorials, lectures, extra lessons, stay-back sessions, overtime curriculum, etc), which I gather from my students, is unhealthy, stressful and unconducive for learning and performance. But things change. Teachers, HODs, Principals, students, change. Perhaps the SRJC environment has, or will, changed or improved.
SInce you're a teacher, you must have taken S papers right? I heard my seniors who took H3 subjects, first lecture 80% withdraw... very scary...
I prefer old system, no pw lor...
Most importantly, do not regret after entering that college...
Originally posted by ~N3RD~:SInce you're a teacher, you must have taken S papers right? I heard my seniors who took H3 subjects, first lecture 80% withdraw... very scary...
As I said, it's 1st year University level difficulty. Sometimes you may need to attend classes at NUS as part of the H3 curriculum.
Check out the H3 syllabuses at SEAB's website :
"Mathematics" H3 Mathematics
http://www.seab.gov.sg/SEAB/aLevel/syllabus/2009_GCE_A_Level_Syllabuses/9810_2009.pdf
"Essentials of Modern Physics" H3 Physics
http://www.seab.gov.sg/SEAB/aLevel/syllabus/2009_GCE_A_Level_Syllabuses/9811_2009.pdf
"Pharmaceutical Chemistry" H3 Chemistry
http://www.seab.gov.sg/SEAB/aLevel/syllabus/2009_GCE_A_Level_Syllabuses/9812_2009.pdf
"Proteomics" H3 Biology+Chemistry
http://www.seab.gov.sg/SEAB/aLevel/syllabus/2009_GCE_A_Level_Syllabuses/9815_2009.pdf
Originally posted by UltimaOnline:
As I said, it's 1st year University level difficulty. Sometimes you may need to attend classes at NUS as part of the H3 curriculum.
Check out the H3 syllabuses at SEAB's website :
"Mathematics" H3 Mathematics
http://www.seab.gov.sg/SEAB/aLevel/syllabus/2009_GCE_A_Level_Syllabuses/9810_2009.pdf
"Essentials of Modern Physics" H3 Physics
http://www.seab.gov.sg/SEAB/aLevel/syllabus/2009_GCE_A_Level_Syllabuses/9811_2009.pdf
"Pharmaceutical Chemistry" H3 Chemistry
http://www.seab.gov.sg/SEAB/aLevel/syllabus/2009_GCE_A_Level_Syllabuses/9812_2009.pdf
"Proteomics" H3 Biology+Chemistry
http://www.seab.gov.sg/SEAB/aLevel/syllabus/2009_GCE_A_Level_Syllabuses/9815_2009.pdf
About going up and down to NUS, I'm very clear about it. So if I'm interested in major in maths, how will it benefit me with the H3?
Originally posted by ~N3RD~:About going up and down to NUS, I'm very clear about it. So if I'm interested in major in maths, how will it benefit me with the H3?
H3 is not necessary, of course. But for eager students who believe they are more capable than, and want to push themselves beyond, the average student, H3 represents exposure to University level academia.
So how will it benefit you? Take it as a preview and/or fast-forward track to doing University level mathematics, while still in JC. It does help your overall performance, in terms of your heightened mindset and deeper thinking, if you're exposed and already functioning at a higher level of academia. PROVIDED you're up to the challenge.
If you find you can't cope (eg. your H2 subjects are not doing well, because you don't have enough time), then you can drop the H3 subject at any time. So it's safe, in that sense, to attempt the H3 challenge.
Incidentally, for Chemistry, I do teach some H3 curriculum to my H2 students, because I find some of these aspects to be fundamental and necessary for a complete understanding of Chemistry.
It's akin to what some students observe, "H1 Chem students have an incomplete understanding because they skip some important parts of the H2 syllabus". I say simiarly, for H2 to H3. But of course, I only teach my H2 students the parts (of H3 syllabus) which are helpful and relevant (eg. Resonance, SN1 vs SN2, mechanisms, etc), not the parts which will totally not be examinable even indirectly (eg. IR, UV, MS, NMR spectroscopy, etc).
So you're into Chemistry...
Chemistry is ARH!
Organic soooooooo many reactions...