Originally posted by FireIce:jp and kr are new languages
so they are more structured and contain alot of borrowed words
languages with longer history and went thru many revolutions naturally more complex (the word is not messy)
In this case it is messy. German has a complex grammatical form, but it is easy to learn because it is 'orderly'. Chinese also has complex grammar, but it is simply messy.
Thanks for all the replies... well... i do speak to my little one in mandarin all the time... maybe i 'old fashion'... feeling that whatever it is, u must at least know mandarin when u r a 'chee-na'... i do agree with FireIce that learning mandarin first is easier than picking up english after... esp. i m in UK now n so little one will pick up english very quickly when she starts nursery due to all the people around speaking english... hv seen so many 2nd and 3rd genration chinese here who dont really know how to speak mandarin anymore....
are u in one of those big cities in uk?
Better don't have children.
Ultimately, it is not which country, but the environment that counts.
Singapore is already a good place to learn English.
Originally posted by Brandrich178:Singapore is already a good place to learn English.
Really?
Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:Really?
Better than malaysia
I want to bring up my children in Singapore so they can be part of the PAP!!!
PAP for LIFE!!!
trololololo
I want to bring up my children in Singapore so they can be part of the PAP!!!
PAP for LIFE!!! PAP!! PAP!!! PEE AAAA PEEEE!!!! I woulld lick out the anus of Goh Chok Tong if I ever could get my hands on it!!!
I want to bring up my children in Singapore so they can be part of the PAP!!!
PAP for LIFE!!! PAP!! PAP!!! PEE AAAA PEEEE!!!! I woulld lick out the anus of Goh Chok Tong if I ever could get my hands on it!!!
there are thousands of foreign parents sending their kids to s'pore.....and this is the answer to the thread....
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Originally posted by WhyYouStaring:I learnt Chinese as my first language and was really good in it, but I gradually became more proficient in English than in Chinese. So I guess it really depends on the individual.
As for TS's question, I believe that balance between the systems of western and eastern countries is very important. Either on its own cannot produce good results in young people, due to various influences. It's really your choice.
For me it's a bit weird la. I learnt English first, then tamil, then german, then hokkien, now dont know what's next.
I think both singapore or overseas is fine. But not in malaysia.
Malaysian education system is going down the drain. So many people get 7 or 8 As. Some even achieving 13As. Not because the people have started to become smarter it is because the education standard has been lowered. I really want to laugh.
When I saw my cousin's textbooks in mathematics/english - the standard is so bad I want to laugh.
I have a cousin who deliberately take the malaysian exams and at the same time sit for O'levels - because the parents think the education system is low.
Originally posted by Brandrich178:Singapore is already a good place to learn English.
Yeah, It's as good as going to China to learn French !
As they say, practice makes perfect. You can make it a rule in your house that it is a mandarin speaking place. No other langauage allowed.
But don't limit her with just mandarin. As, being bilingual can help her in the future. She can easily find a job with this skill.
To be honest, I think the more important factors influencing your child during growing up is the parenting and the child's friends.
Hi, my family has always been staying outside Singapore, and most of the schooling years of my 2 teenage girls are outside Singapore. However, we retained 2 subjects, which we teach them ourselves, which is Math and Chinese.
My kids have come into contact with many languages, due to their lived experience. But in school (Canada), they speak like Ang Moh, and at home, they speak Singlish. It is hard for them to communicate with us in Mandarin, but when they come in touch with PRC, they are still able to use Chinese to communicate.
What we did is, we teach them Chinese songs, like 朋�,我的未��是梦 etc. We also exposed them to Chinese movies, poem, and Chinese history, we even show them big Chinese cities, so that they will not think that being a Chinese is inferior, but appreciate multi-culture experience.
I noticed someone mentioned that if we teach our kids Chinese at young age, they will have disability to pick up different languages, which I think this is nonsenses. Besides English and French, both my girls understand Malay, Thai, and my elder girl can also speak Korean. I think that is because since young, they are exposed to Chinese, Hokkien and English, and thus they have learned to switch from one language to another easily.
Press on, don't give up our roots and traditions. It is not just for economy reasons, but rather, to allow them to appreciate the great history and culture of China (I am not referring to PRC culture).
Well personally being Sikh and having friends and family living both in Singapore and abroad, I think it is based on the individual itself. I've seen Sikh families from Singapore(migrated many years already), with kids studying at Ivy League schools.
On the contrary, I've seen Sikh families here with kids in NUS Med/Law schools.
Also, most Singaporean Chinese do pretty well overseas, from their culture I guess.
I am trying to speak to my daughter in Mandarin only. However, her dad who is a BBC does not speak much Mandarin and her childminder (nanny) is English as well. So she seemed to reply more in English to me though I also noticed that sometimes she will mix both Mandarin and English in a sentence. I just don't want her to slowly lose her 'roots' in this English environment (I am in England).... Singapore's Singlish but at least she will be forced to speak more Mandarin as her grandparents there do not speak any English and most of my friends back in Singapore are also more Mandarin-speaking.... hmm...