How do buddhist calculate their good deeds?
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Wonderful insight ! Thanks !
Another question:
Since Buddhism supports the concept of past lives, why we dun remember our past lives?
There are people who complain that it is unfair that they have to suffer for something that don't remember. A Ven. said it was never unfair. It was just like a driver who killed someone on the road while drunk driving. He could not remember what he had done but he had to be responsible because the true fact was he killed someone.
Just like if someone falls and breaks his legs when he is drunk. Though he cannot recall what happen but that will not save his legs. The fact is his legs are broken. What was done was done. Whether you can recall or not does not matter.
These explanations make sense to me.
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Originally posted by Almond Cookies:
God will judge us after we die based on what we have done.This is our beliefs.
Whatever he has created are not perfect. So do you think he can judge properly without mistakes ?
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
There are people who complain that it is unfair that they have to suffer for something that don't remember. A Ven. said it was never unfair. It was just like a driver who killed someone on the road while drunk driving. He could not remember what he had done but he had to be responsible because the true fact was he killed someone.
Just like if someone falls and breaks his legs when he is drunk. Though he cannot not recall what happen but that will not save his legs. The fact is his legs are broken. What is done is done. Whether you can recall or not does not matter.
These explanations make sense to me.
Thanks for the insight....nice explanation...
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
I've heard of those stories too ! So life in somewhat eternal ?
You are basically asking me, is the soul eternal? My answer is that there is no soul, there are only aggregation of mental and physical phenomena arising due to karma and many other causes and conditions. Such births are occuring on a momentary level. This arising is not the same as the next, but the present karmic causes cause a new birth, a new psychophysical aggregate phenomena to arise. The new birth is neither the same, nor different from the previous birth. They are causally linked but no unchanging self entity can be found in the process. In this way, the process of rebirth continues while there are karmic conditions for birth, without there being an eternal soul. There is no you, but there is a process of rebirth. There is no hearer apart from hearing, no seer apart from seeing, no thinker apart from thinking, no doer apart from doing, everything happens due to causes and conditions. -
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
You are basically asking me, is the soul eternal? My answer is that there is no soul, there are only aggregation of mental and physical phenomena arising due to karma and many other causes and conditions. Such births are occuring on a momentary level. This arising is not the same as the next, but the present karmic causes cause a new birth, a new psychophysical aggregate phenomena to arise. The new birth is neither the same, nor different from the previous birth. They are causally linked but no unchanging self entity can be found in the process. In this way, the process of rebirth continues while there are karmic conditions for birth, without there being an eternal soul. There is no you, but there is a process of rebirth. There is no hearer apart from hearing, no seer apart from seeing, no thinker apart from thinking, no doer apart from doing, everything happens due to causes and conditions.Good explanation! Thanks !
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Ah, the beauty of quantum physics!
i believe this is the state which buddha is trying to describe and let others understand
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Are there things that dun have karma attached to it ? Some kind of neutral action or speech or thought ?
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hi Demon bane , there is a type of action known as neutral action
Just like drinking tea , walking in the park , have no illwill or greed action which will ripen ..
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
Whatever he has created are not perfect. So do you think he can judge properly without mistakes ?
Hi Dawn,Maybe your question needs to be slightly amended to read": Whatever he has purportedly created are not perfect. So do you think he can judge properly without mistakes?"
Not trying to be semantic, but I am a Buddhist and therefore do not subscribe to the existence of God. It then follows, that which does not exist is not in a position to create anything. So our question here is a rhetorical one and needs to be phrased as such.
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Yes, like bohiruci said. There are wholesome, unwholesome and neutral karma.
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
Whatever he has created are not perfect. So do you think he can judge properly without mistakes ?
He created his creation with defects so we have a need to seek him and If we are created perfect, It cannot 凸显his perfection.Only God is perfect. His creation is imperfect.
We need to rest when tired, cough when sick. God won't get tired and sick.
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Aen: off topic post not allowed, deleted. Return to topic
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Is having neutral karma considered as the "middle path" ? So having neutral Karma will also lead to enlightenment ?
Will having neutral karma stop the cycle of rebirth then? -
Aen: you forgot what you promised. No christian evangelism here. To sinweiy: help me watch this guy and delete when necessary k?
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Is having neutral karma considered as the "middle path" ? So having neutral Karma will also lead to enlightenment ?
Will having neutral karma stop the cycle of rebirth then?
No human can avoid doing sinful things like lying,gossiping so all humans are going to hell. -
Originally posted by Almond Cookies:
He created his creation with defects so we have a need to seek him and If we are created perfect, It cannot 凸显his perfection.Only God is perfect. His creation is imperfect.
We need to rest when tired, cough when sick. God won't get tired and sick.
I will not worship a god who 把自己的幸�建立在别人的痛苦上（builds his happiness at the expense of others sufferings). To show that he is perfect, he has to make us imperfect. What is this ? Anyway, this will be my last post to you.
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Only God is perfect. His creation is imperfect.
funny, this reminds me of Taiji. say Taiji is perfect. Taiji give rise to liangyi. liangyi to Si xiang. Si Xiang to bagua..etc, all and all what it give rise is imperfect. :) Taiji itself is "souless". it is All natural.
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All humans can attain perfection (buddhahood), not all humans are bound for hell (that depends karma), perfection is not necessary for rebirth in heaven, and heaven is not an ultimate and eternal place. Just to clear up some christian heresies that are blatantly false from the buddhist perspective.
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Although God created us imperfect, he will help us when we pray for him.
He also send his only begotten son to die for our sins.
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Originally posted by Almond Cookies:
Although God created us imperfect, he will help us when we pray for him.
He also send his only begotten son to die for our sins.
Don't talk crap, bible says God created humans in His own image, now you telling lies he created humans imperfect. God's image is perfect.Keep christianity talk in Eternal Hope. You preach without action of love, what a failure!
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Originally posted by Almond Cookies:
No human can avoid doing sinful things like lying,gossiping so all humans are going to hell.Ya la, you also going to hell, you lied, you lust after females, you use bad words.
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To demon bane: the ans to your question is that neutral karma does not lead to liberation, but indeed there is a type of karma that leads to liberation. Please read http://www.buddhanet.net/cmdsg/kamma5.htm
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"in order to nullify kamma, instead of merely stopping still or doing nothing, the practicing Buddhist must apply himself to a practice based on right understanding. Correct practice induces independence, clarity and freedom from the directives of desire as it, in hand with ignorance, entangles beings in the search for attainments."
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Originally posted by shanfan:
Don't talk crap, bible says God created humans in His own image, now you telling lies he created humans imperfect. God's image is perfect.Keep christianity talk in Eternal Hope. You preach without action of love, what a failure!
Create Human in his image does not mean we are perfect human beings.Question: "What does it mean that man is made in the image of God?"
Answer: On the last day of creation, God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness” (Genesis 1:26). Thus, He finished His work with a “personal touch.” God formed man from the dust and gave him life by sharing His own breath (Genesis 2:7). Accordingly, man is unique among all God’s creations, having both a material body and an immaterial soul/spirit.
Having the “image” or “likeness” of God means, in the simplest terms, that we were made to resemble God. Adam did not resemble God in the sense of God’s having flesh and blood. Scripture says that “God is spirit” (John 4:24) and therefore exists without a body. However, Adam’s body did mirror the life of God insofar as it was created in perfect health and was not subject to death.
The image of God refers to the immaterial part of man. It sets man apart from the animal world, fits him for the dominion God intended him to have over the earth (Genesis 1:28), and enables him to commune with his Maker. It is a likeness mentally, morally, and socially.
Mentally, man was created as a rational, volitional agent. In other words, man can reason and man can choose. This is a reflection of God’s intellect and freedom. Anytime someone invents a machine, writes a book, paints a landscape, enjoys a symphony, calculates a sum, or names a pet, he or she is proclaiming the fact that we are made in God’s image.
Morally, man was created in righteousness and perfect innocence, a reflection of God’s holiness. God saw all He had made (mankind included) and called it “very good” (Genesis 1:31). Our conscience or “moral compass” is a vestige of that original state. Whenever someone writes a law, recoils from evil, praises good behavior, or feels guilty, he is confirming the fact that we are made in God’s own image.
Socially, man was created for fellowship. This reflects God's triune nature and His love. In Eden, man’s primary relationship was with God (Genesis 3:8 implies fellowship with God), and God made the first woman because “it is not good for the man to be alone” (Genesis 2:18). Every time someone marries, makes a friend, hugs a child, or attends church, he is demonstrating the fact that we are made in the likeness of God.
Part of being made in God’s image is that Adam had the capacity to make free choices. Although he was given a righteous nature, Adam made an evil choice to rebel against his Creator. In so doing, Adam marred the image of God within himself, and he passed that damaged likeness on to all his descendants (Romans 5:12). Today, we still bear the image of God (James 3:9), but we also bear the scars of sin. Mentally, morally, socially, and physically, we show the effects of sin.
The good news is that when God redeems an individual, He begins to restore the original image of God, creating a “new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness” (Ephesians 4:24). That redemption is only available by God’s grace through faith in Jesus Christ as our Savior from the sin that separates us from God (Ephesians 2:8-9). Through Christ, we are made new creations in the likeness of God (2 Corinthians 5:17). -
Originally posted by shanfan:
Don't talk crap, bible says God created humans in His own image, now you telling lies he created humans imperfect. God's image is perfect.Keep christianity talk in Eternal Hope. You preach without action of love, what a failure!
U bully a 13 year old girl called jiani.