Correction in violet, my recall...
- TUMO/serpent fire cultivation and acts like an expert. When people challenged her knowledge and real experience in that, she exclaimed, “æˆ‘æ ¹æœ¬æ²¡å�«ä½ åŽ»è¯»ï¼Œæ˜¯ä½ è‡ªå·±è¦�去读的。难é�“ä½ è¯»ä»€ä¹ˆä¸œè¥¿éƒ½è¦�我负责å�—?我为什么è¦�å¯¹æˆ‘æ‰€è´´çš„æ–‡ç« è´Ÿè´£ï¼Ÿè¿™æ˜¯åˆ«äººå†™çš„ï¼Œä¸�关我的事ï¼�è¦�æ€ªåŽ»æ€ªå†™è¿™äº›æ–‡ç« çš„äººã€‚æ‰€æœ‰çš„å› æžœæ˜¯ä½ è·Ÿä»–ä¹‹é—´çš„äº‹ï¼�我å�ªæ˜¯å¥½å¿ƒè´´ç»™äººçœ‹çœ‹æœ‰ä»€ä¹ˆèµ„料或其他修行方法罢了ï¼�”Therefore it is extremely important, don't follow any cultivation articles that are created/pasted by Wiser aka Arica Lim. ä½ è‹¥ç…§ç�€å¥¹çš„æ–‡ç« åŽ»å�šçš„è¯�,出了事,她会转过头æ�¥ç¾žè¾±ä½ 的,虽然她自己都å�šä¸�到。
WY, she will not change, this became her habit, for deccades. I also chanted for her recovery, a few others chanted on their own, dun know whether that took effects or not.
People saw her struggling up the stairs step by step with tremendous efforts along the Ghim Moh 3-room flats, there was another woman by her side helped her going up the stairs patiently, she is one of the TBSer, look like she was taking care of her that time.
6 months later, she regained the ability to walk normally, and that woman went disappeared. Shall ask that TBSer what problems did Arica went through and share with others, I mean how she helped Arica to regain the ability to wallk again...
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This article sells SHC orgaz away and admit that they employ "specialists" to enter various groups/organization as undercover so as to seek opportunities for their business.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Btw just a clarification: wiser is not the person you claimed, having checked with her personally, she never claims enlightenment nor kundalini awakening at 22.
An Eternal Now, checking with a liar, you will get lies in return.
Check for her height, she is near to 1.8M tall, WY is right.
Check where she stays. She stays at Ghim Moh.
Check for her marital status, she likes to claim as SINGLE! Because her husband divorced her.
If you want photo, I can provide you also. She is wearing glasses, short hair but kindda little.
Her voice is loud, by nature, with vibrating hollow sound.
Alternatively, you can call for a meet up with her, then bring her to a place full of TBSers. Immediately, the TBSers will greet her, "Hi, Arica, long time no see...."
Got it?!
Originally posted by Wiser:any way Lu Sheng Yen created a sutra called the true buddha sutra that all his followers must chant by heart. He told everyone he is the Amitabhava buddha in this sutra.
He also told everyone he is the 6th matriach, the mirapa, and some more dun know who la. He only short of telling everyone he is shakyamuni buddha in previous life.
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Originally posted by Wiser:
True Buddha School can con many and some of them may be in the government post and protecting TBS. Like this Wang Yin, slandering a person so badly on a open forum. Tsk tsk...don't know what kind of buddhism they teach in this cult.Many people do not understand why TBS is a cult , lack of information. And with this kind of die hard supporter like Wang Yin using all tactics to slander another person,
who dare to speak up and tell others the truth of TBS.
hahahaha....only the brave and the one who cares enough for others.
Then prove that your are not near to 1.8M tall, you are not staying at Ghim Moh, you are not a divorcee. If you can't, then you are slapping yourself with your own words, and whats more, you call yourself a what? A BULLDDHIST?
Oh I see, you are so brave to the extend that you don't even dare to admit your own surname! The Surname that you grreat great grand grand ancestors passing on to your ah gong, your father then to yourself.
So please prove that you are really really WARY BRAVE!!! Please show your photo here... eh, wait a minute, you used to abuse internet chatroom avatars as your own to create many slander IDs, no no no, is better that I PROVIDE YOUR PHOTO here, right? I guess you will not stop me from showing your photo here, because YOU ARE SO BRAVE TO TAKE ON TBS, so no point to hide behind your virtual ID right?
Sherry Chua ?! What a BIG LIE!!!!
WY told the audience here to go to a 3rd party database, The US Law Database to do readup on their own, because the audience here are LACK OF INFORMATION! And is YOU, are the ONE to stop them from accessing useful information with your own selfish and ill intention to confine them within your LIES!.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:All buddhist organisations know True Buddha School is a cult and lu sheng yen is a con man
All legitimate mainstream Buddhist organisations do not receognise TBS, this is a fact.
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Hello, 至少西马还有一个没有排斥真佛宗的哦,很�错哦。
所以,并没有ALL啦,至少在大马是如æ¤ã€‚
Originally posted by Wiser:are you sure ? Lu sheng yen can create so many lies, he can also create this. May be someone 's relative get another monk to bless the ex-con but nobody mentioned only.
Any way true buddha school laughed at others when they don't know many other traditional buddhist organisations have so many of these miracles but people don't use this to sell their school leh.
Just another marketing tactic of lu sheng yen.
Nobody mentioned it, because he says NO LIES! Then how to mention ?!
Who will act like you and SHC, to CREATE SOMETHING TO MENTION ABOUT WHICH in fact, are all LIES!
Oh? TBS laughs at others for no miracles? Reported by Wiser aka Arica Lim?
Why need to laugh when they could not have any miracles? Anyway TBS is not selling miracles, unless someones felt that their egoes are beaten by those fact of miracles of TBS, such that they can't take it anymore and plot to attack TBS and even gang up to announce that THE LEGITIMATE MAINSTREAM RELIGION OR GROUPS SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY MIRACLE.
Wow... like to confine people within their lies, same feathers flock together !!! Eh, this is also their kind of miracle what?...Creation of many many many lies !!! But in fact, for a Buddhist group to deny miracles of Buddhism, that group will never have any miracles.
Any group with such thought, already fail to serve the community as a religion body, and those who slander TBS on this miracle case, do not hold Buddhism in heart.
Wiser aka Arica Lim,
With you such a GREAT PERSON, with such a GREAT PERSONALITY and GREAT COMPASSION, with GREAT CONCERNS about the raped victims, with the PAINs you feel for SHC, and being so BRAVE to take on cults on SHC's behalf, aren't you too selfish not to make basic introduction of yourself?
why you dare not show your face here?
why you dare not use your dialect name or Chinese name here?
why you dare not show your cancers histories and treatments here?
why not you show your address here to everybody so that people with Kundalini problems or people being raped by bad guys and especially for SHC organization, to pay a visit to your home and seek for your EMERGENCY helps and VALUABLE cum COMPASSIONATE advice.
A, no sincerity at all ! Hello, show your sincerity leh...
You claimed yourself to be filthy rich in TBS forums that you have lots of lots of antiques (宋ã€�明ã€�清代å�¤è‘£å’Œæ±�窑å�Šä¸€å¤§å †ç ´é“œçƒ‚é“�)available for auction at home, and yet you refuse to donate to SHC and provide her with financial supports for battling with Mr. Lu ?Errrh, really strange leh, why harh?? I thought you really CARE about SHC worh, but yet why you refuse to help her up financially?
** Sorry everybody, I know you all must be at a lost because one moment she claimed herself very rich and another moment she said she had no money to eat. We too very confuse at first... So, in the end we realize, no point to pick up some sense from her statements.
Otherwise, just doing talk shows and cut and paste jobs will not SHOW YOUR SINCERITY in whatever you have claimed on yourself.
Silence means consent. Perhaps, you want someone else to do these jobs for you?
Wiser aka Arica Lim,
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唉。。。
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Originally posted by Wan Ying:The so called legitimate mainstream Buddhist organisations are accredited by themselves.
In ancient India, nobody gave that kind of "Legitimate Recognition" to Buddha too.
However, there is one thing TBS outweight the rest of legitimate mainstream Buddhist organisations, that is,
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Which is the so called "legitimate mainstream Buddhist organisations" failed to do that for decades.
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I attended twice Lu Sheng Yen’s talks in Singapore, once in IMM many years ago and a more recent one around 3 years ago at the Expo. The attendance at the Expo, I believe were around 20,000 to 30,000 from all over SEA with some I notice, even from Japan. Some of his followers were even following him on his tour of SEA including Taiwan. There were also many monks of the School present in these gathering. It goes to show how established this school has become.
As an outsider, I have also notice how committed and devoted these followers are to him. Statues of him are also available for sale to the followers to worship. They have their own chants and offer many type of services to its members. You can also find group of this School even in small towns in Malaysia.
Whether main stream Buddhists like it or not, or agrees with their teaching, they are here to stay for a long time to come.
yes there is no doubt that tbs is a large organisation and thus all the more we must educate the public about how strayed tbs is from the the true authentic dharma that leads to enlightenment
as crowds usually attract crowds resulting in more being blindly misled
So, Aik TC, for the IMM that session, did you realized that the corridor leading to toilets at the back of stage was flooded with water?
Originally posted by Luna Wei:So, for the IMM that session, did you realized that the corridor leading to toilets at the back of stage was flooded with water?
No, too long ago. Only remember that the vest he was wearing was auction off, believe for more than $40k on the last day.
Perhaps that area was blocked out due to slippery. But for ladies who queued up for the restrooms at that area would know because fewer people would take a long distance to those toilets.
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I agree with "An Eternal Now", because no proper education was given to the so called "true authentic dharma" followers, thats why millions of people have swamped into TBS within short period of time! Perhaps after they realized how TRUE AUTHENTIC DHARMA can be used on the innocents....
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Aik TC, then do you remember which party recieved this $40K? Who/Which is the reciever who went up onto the stage for photo session?
No idea, only know he wasn't any VIP, as he was sitting somewhere at the back of the hall.
Originally posted by Luna Wei:Perhaps that area was blocked out due to slippery. But for ladies who queued up for the restrooms at that area would know because fewer people would take a long distance to those toilets.
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I agree with "An Eternal Now", because no proper education was given to the so called "true authentic dharma" followers, thats why millions of people have swamped into TBS within short period of time! Perhaps after they realized how TRUE AUTHENTIC DHARMA can be used on the innocents....
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Aik TC, then do you remember which party recieved this $40K? Who/Which is the reciever who went up onto the stage for photo session?
Prove it ! any police report ? you people just create stories and blame on the traditional buddhist schools.
another lie of TBs
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:yes there is no doubt that tbs is a large organisation and thus all the more we must educate the public about how strayed tbs is from the the true authentic dharma that leads to enlightenment
as crowds usually attract crowds resulting in more being blindly misled
you are absolutely right on that. Many bring along their unsuspecting friends and relatives, family members for blessing.
The crowd made up of people who attended just for blessing pulled along by their friend/family yet TBS boasted that they had so many followers. TBS just loved to make up stories to market the school.
The truth is many had left disappointed, hurt, abused and cheated quietly. Cos they are fearful of the threats made by TBS people ( like you will get cancer, you will be punished by Gods etc ). Typical behaviours of a cult. Using threat to shut people up.
There are a few ended up in the mental hospital. I met someone who told me a real story of his friend. 20 years of youth wasted in the mental hospital after his childhood friend started to follow tbs and became mad. His friend was given the clearance after 20 years but the family would not want to hear a single word of TBS. He wasted 20 years in IMH/
Originally posted by Aik TC:
No idea, only know he wasn't any VIP, as he was sitting somewhere at the back of the hall.
Ok, never mind.
All auction has a purpose. There will be some items to be auctioned off, which is mostly donated by some ones. There will be a target party, receiver/beneficiary, and this receiver is not necessarily TBS related, it could be hospital, NKF, community chest etc. After the auction, photo taking for donor and receiver is a must.
Most of the time, there will be minimum 2 auction items, I observed. One is for social benefits and responsibilities and another one will be used to source for funds to pay for the hefty expenses.
Like the Expo session, the rental is over one million, just for the 5 halls, not including equipments, transportation, setups, advertising, project management costs etc. There is never a session that TBS could made money from gigantic ceremony. Backend there are always rich men willing to absorb the outstanding. The truth is, whatever they sponsored, they managed to recover it from their businesses. Thats why they are able to support in long term.
Any donation solicited from the public, it has to be spent within a financial year. Over a year, the money belongs to the government, thus the temple needs to source for donations for the coming year expenses from scratch again and again.
There are lots of rules and regulations set by local government. What you see, is not what you imagined.
1/3 will go to the Seattle temple (into lu sheng yen pocket), 1/3 to the masters and 1/3 to the chapter/temples. Standard distribution listed in TBS news. Every TBS temple and chapters have to follow.
To put up a show, they will donate some to charity.
Nonsense.