Conversation Between Buddha And The Poor (佛陀与穷人的对话）

• sinweiy

  13 Mar 11, 12:25

  think such greedy wealth wouldn't last for long. as that say wealth is difficult to last for 3 generation 富�过三代.

  heard Li Ka Shing not like that.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ka-shing

   

  In spite of his wealth, Li has cultivated a reputation for leading a no-frills lifestyle, and is known to wear simple black dress shoes and an inexpensive Seiko wristwatch, which is at odds with the house he owns in one of Hong Kong's most expensive precincts, Deep Water Bay. Li is also regarded as one of Asia's most generous philanthropists, donating over US $1.41 billion to date to charity and other various philanthropic causes.^[8]

• Wiser

  13 Mar 11, 14:21

  some of the millionares live very simple.

  The one who convinced Bill Gate to donate all his wealth back to the society is also a multi-millionare who gave his money away to the poor and needy .He never locked his big house , yet no-one will rob his home. Say a lot about these rich people, doesn't it?

  Some of the rich people younger generation are involved in charities but keep quiet about it. Famous one is jacky chan's son who went to volunteer in africa.

   

  Some of the people who come from poor background become rich and corrupted. They are even more greedy than those from rich background.

• realization

  13 Mar 11, 14:57

  Originally posted by Amitayus48:

  This is still very problematic for some poor beings if they do not aware Bodhi, the negative may be more than positive. Thus, the purpose of wealthy beings is to assist the less fortunate on living needs. While the less fortunate live happily and search for happiness beyong life & death. An example on many awesome dharma talks such as 星云大师 :

  �样是人，为什么有的人很富有，有的人很贫穷？我们�如何�认定什么是贫穷？什么是富有呢？有的人高楼大厦，汽车冷气，锦衣玉食，�禄�全；有的人一生劳 碌奔波，工作所得�为�薄，仅能供给一家数�勉强温饱而已。其原因何在？一言以蔽之，都是由于个人宿世善�业所招感的果报。
  
       就贫富而论，有钱的人，虽然衣食无缺，å�Žç›–é‡�裘，但有时候为了人事的困扰，å�Œæ ·æ—¥å¤œä¸�得安å®�；没有钱的人，尽管æ¯�日难过，ä¾�然æ¯�日过，无钱一样å�¯ä»¥æŒºèµ·èƒ¸ 膛，安心自在，此å�³æ‰€è°“çš„“人穷志ä¸�ç©·”。这个é�“ç�†ä¹Ÿå°±æ˜¯è¯´äººç”Ÿçš„幸ç¦�å¿«ä¹�，贫与富并ä¸�æž„æˆ�ç»�对的æ�¡ä»¶ã€‚佛教对于贫富的看法，认为贫与富对人格的尊严，原 没有什么差è·�。譬如用水洗涤污秽的东西，洗涤之å�Žï¼Œä¸Žæ´—涤之å‰�，其实就没有区别；这æ„�æ€�是说，人生数å��寒暑，如梦幻泡影，贫富苦ä¹�å�ªåœ¨äºŽè‡ªå·±å†…心的体认罢 了。所以，有人粗茶淡饭ä¸�改其ä¹�；有人富甲一方，ä»�然忧æ„�烦æ�¼ã€‚深一层的说，如果心里拥有三å�ƒå¤§å�ƒä¸–界，那么，å�³ä½¿èº«æ— ç«‹é”¥ä¹‹åœ°ï¼Œå�´å�¯æ„Ÿå�—到最大的富足ï¼�
  
       佛陀的生活，就å�¯ä»¥ä½œä¸ºæœ€ç¡®åˆ‡çš„è¯�明。佛陀的生活，春å¤�秋冬皆ç�€ä¸€è¢­ç²ªæ‰«è¡£ï¼Œä¹Ÿè§‰æ‚ å“‰æ¸¸å“‰ï¼›æŠ«ä¸Šå��贵的金缕衣，也ä¸�毫ä¸�感到骄傲。既å�¯ä»¥ç²—茶淡饭，也å�¯ä»¥ 美味佳肴；å�¯ä»¥æ ‘下露宿，也å�¯ä»¥å®‰ä½�于ç�¼æ¥¼çŽ‰å®‡ï¼›å�¯ä»¥è‡ªå·±ç‹¬å¤„山林，也å�¯ä¸Žå››ä¼—弟å­�å…±ä½�……。å�¯è§�佛陀对富贵贫贱ã€�穷通得失ã€�兴衰盛败ã€�美丑善æ�¶ï¼Œå¹¶ä¸�ç³» 念于心，也ä¸�追é€�世间的尘欲，å�ªæ˜¯éš�缘适应环境ï¼�这就是佛陀最大的富有。
  
       且ä¸�说佛陀，就是近代的弘一大师，也认为世间上没有一样东西使他觉得ä¸�好。破旧的手巾也好，碱苦的蔬è�œä¹Ÿå¥½ï¼Œè·‘一整天的路也好，ä½�在å°�茅屋也好，世界上什 么都有味，什么对他都了ä¸�得。他少欲知足，别人认为他如此贫穷，简直是在å�—苦，但他å�´è§‰å¾—一切都很好。有一次，å¤�尊看到弘一大师那ç§�å�ƒè��å�œç¢±è�œçš„愉快情 景，颇有所悟，å¤�先生说：“è��å�œç¢±è�œçš„真滋味，大概è¦�åƒ�弘一大师这样的人，æ‰�能如实的å“�å°�到。”
  
       我现在举一事æ�¥è¯�明：一个有钱人ä½�的是高楼大厦，拥有ç§�ç§�最现代化的高级设备，生活真是富裕豪å�Žã€‚他家邻近有一间破旧å°�房å­�，ä½�ç�€ä¸€å¯¹è´«ç©·å¤«å¦‡ï¼Œè¿™å¯¹å¤«å¦‡ 虽然生活并ä¸�富裕，但是夫唱妇éš�，生活相当愉快。å�¯æ˜¯ä½�在楼上的有钱人家，总是è¦�为公å�¸çš„交际应酬感到困扰，为声势å��利的维护感到ä¸�ä¹�，心里就觉得纳闷： “我这么有钱，为什么那么烦æ�¼ï¼Œéš”é‚»ä½�破房å­�的人家，ä¸�是歌唱，就是谈笑，为什么他们那样快ä¹�？”
  
       有人就告诉他：“ä½ è¦�å�–苦æ�¼å�—？å�ªé¡»æ‹¿å‡ºäºŒå��万元é€�给他们，他们马上就会苦æ�¼ã€‚”
  
       二å��万元，在有钱的人看æ�¥ï¼Œå®žåœ¨ç®—ä¸�了什么，好ï¼�就慷慨é€�给贫穷的夫妻。贫穷的夫妇凭空得到二å��万元，最åˆ�喜欢得ä¸�得了。但是到了晚上å�´çƒ¦æ�¼é’±è¦�放到哪里 呢？抽屉å�§ï¼Œä¸�ä¿�险ï¼�床底下嘛，也ä¸�太安全ï¼�枕头下é�¢……å·¦æ€�å�³æƒ³ï¼Œä¸€å¤œç�¡ä¸�ç�€è§‰ã€‚过了几天，他们å�ˆä¸ºäº†äºŒå��万元该如何利用而å�µå˜´ï¼Œå¤«å¦»å‡ ä¹Žå› æ­¤è€Œç ´å��了 多年的感情，å�Žæ�¥ä¸€å��çœ�，æ‰�彻悟钱使他们苦æ�¼ï¼Œç»ˆäºŽå�ˆæŠŠé’±è¿˜ç»™åŽŸæ�¥çš„主人。
  
       这当然是一个寓言，ä¸�过寓言有时候å�´åŒ…å�«ç�€æ·±åˆ»çš„真ç�†ã€‚这个寓言告诉我们：å��利有时也会为人增加烦æ�¼å’Œå�±é™©ã€‚从å‰�，孔å­�的弟å­�颜回“一箪食，一瓢饮，居陋 巷，人ä¸�堪其忧，回也ä¸�改其ä¹�”；佛陀的弟å­�大迦å�¶ï¼Œåœ¨å�Ÿå¢“间修行也觉得泰然自得；我国å�¤ä»£è¯—人陶渊明“采è�Šä¸œç¯±ä¸‹ï¼Œæ‚ ç„¶è§�å�—å±±”等等，这些å‰�例都在说明 贫富ä¸�能以有没有钱æ�¥è¡¡é‡�。人å�¯ä»¥ç©·ï¼Œä½†æ˜¯å†…心ä¸�能穷。心里的能æº�是å�–之ä¸�尽，用之ä¸�竭的，é‡�è¦�的是，你肯ä¸�肯去开采它；你如果肯开采心里的能æº�，你æ‰�是 真正的富者。

  Namo Paradise

   

    Yeah, rich or poor.  All need bodhi.

   

• Wiser

  13 Mar 11, 15:50

  hahaha...you mean Bodhi heart ? 

• Dawnfirstlight

  13 Mar 11, 16:06

  Originally posted by sinweiy:

  think such greedy wealth wouldn't last for long. as that say wealth is difficult to last for 3 generation 富�过三代.

  heard Li Ka Shing not like that.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ka-shing

   

  This is a true story in Singapore. There was a rich man who heard of wealth is difficult to last for 3 generation 富�过三代. So, he left a will to pass his fortune (many millions of dollars and properties) to the 4th generation (can't remember which but if I'm not wrong was his 4th generation).

  When times come, the person in charge searched for his 4th generation who is entitled to his wealth. And you know what happen? The person in charge found his  4th generation was left with only one great great grand daughter who was retarded. The rich man did not understand about merits. He should leave merits or taught his next generations on how to accumulate merits instead of leaving wealth to his next generations.

   

• sinweiy

  13 Mar 11, 20:07

  beside, that said 无奸�商 business people sure got some way of cheating. such unwholesome karma can cause repercussions to the next generations.

   

  我们讲一个实际的故事�说明这个�盗产生的��症。过去在明�的扬州有一个��北货生�的商人。�北货就是说从�边买东西�北边�，从北边拿东西��边��，赚�它的价差。那么这个商人为了投机�巧，在秤斗上加上水银，使令在秤的时候看起�比原�的�，所以他牟�很多的�义之财。但是他也赚了很多钱，买了好几栋的房�，生了一个儿�。这个儿��生了两个孙�。那么�人家�死掉的时候，临终就把这个儿��到身边说，儿�，你知�我为什么赚到这么多钱？我就�这个秤斗，这是我们传家之�。这个秤斗多么好用，你看，它�以看起�比较�，赚�这个价差。��讲�这个�人家就死掉了。
  这个儿�是个读书人，他知�世间上因果的��，他看到这个秤斗很害怕，他父亲一生造这么多盗戒，��他人的财物。他当天晚上就写一个�文白告上天，说我父亲因为一时的愚痴，希望上天原谅他。然�当众就用�把这个秤斗给烧了，我们从今以�，我们以正义的方���生�。烧的时候这个秤斗还飘出两�的黑烟冉冉地上�。他就开始用正派的��，该怎么�就怎么�。��没多久他两个儿�就相继地生病死掉了。这个读书人�常地懊�，就禀告上天说，我很正直地�我的生�。怎么我这样正直，我两个儿�都死掉了呢？这世间上有没有天�呢？他这样白告以�，当天晚上就�梦了，天神就跟他讲，他说，你这两个儿�是我们上天的凶星�讨债的，你爸爸�这�伤天害�的事情。本�这两个儿�，这两个败家��长大以�，把你们家的房�都败光了，钱都花光了，�会死掉的。因为你一念的善心，所以上天把他们�早带回�。所以你��紧张，你继续修善下去，你以�还会有两个儿�，这个就是正常的儿�了。��果然他继续�正直的生�，两个儿���都考上了功�。---Ven Jing Jie Fashi

   

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• sinweiy

  13 Mar 11, 20:23

  might as well also to add on the karma of stealing. if one never steal/cheat in previous lifes, their wealth won't be harm even if there's a disaster. or if they let the door open, no thief will come and steal/rob.

  �盗严�的情况是�生堕�到地狱�饿鬼�畜生。从三��出�会产生两�余报，第一个贫穷，就是你很努力地工作，但是你就赚�到钱，就表示你过去有�盗的罪业的余报。第二个，你赚到了钱，但是你这个钱很容易失掉，共财�得自在。
  什么�共财？就是说你的钱财是跟五家共有。第一个�国王。你就很容易�到一些�好的官�给你苛税，怎么样，总之你就会�到这样一些因缘把你的财富给夺�。第二�到盗贼。你的钱很容易被骗�被抢。第三个败家�。你�常犯盗戒去��别人的财物，诶你就会出现一个败家�，你一生的积蓄就败在他的手上。第四个水�。第五个是��。你看我们有些人他的财物得到以�很�固，这个地震一�的时候，他的隔�的房�破�了。左边的房�破�了，他的房�没事。水�能淹，��能烧，地震�能破�。为什么？因为他过去生没有�盗，所以他得到一个财物的果报的时候，很�固。
  你看�严宗的一个祖师�顺和尚。�顺和尚有一天人家拿钱供养他回去盖庙的，结果他��心丢在路上了。回去以�他的�者很紧张，说师父，你怎么把钱放地上，没有拿回�？�顺和尚说，你�用紧张，你去哪一个地方，一定�以拿得到。结果他�者跑去，果然没有人拿，就拿回�了。�顺和尚说，我过去生有三生三世都没有�盗，所以我的东西没有人�以拿走。他就是那个善业特别的�固，得到财物以�很�固。

  --Ven Jing Jie Fashi

  so better be honest in making money/wealth...

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• Wiser

  13 Mar 11, 23:19

  hahaha...why limit to business men only ? Politicians and religion leaders can be more cheating and power hungry than business men.

   

   

• sinweiy

  14 Mar 11, 08:56

  more involve in money making per se. :)