Faith in Belief Systems
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By the way, two days ago: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/08/16/scispeed116.xmlOriginally posted by Thusness:.....As we know, Newtonian physics or classical science works well for a man-size world but not quite well in the macro and micro universe. Our ordinary experiences do not permit us to experience something having the mass of a star or traveling at half-speed of light, we presume that the entire universe must obey the laws of the man-size world. But when we are exposed to things not so ordinary, like traveling at a speed much faster then our ordinary experience of ‘speed’, we are lost because phenomena just don’t behave the way we expected it to be.....
'We have broken speed of light'
By Nic Fleming, Science Correspondent
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 16/08/2007
A pair of German physicists claim to have broken the speed of light - an achievement that would undermine our entire understanding of space and time.
According to Einstein's special theory of relativity, it would require an infinite amount of energy to propel an object at more than 186,000 miles per second.
However, Dr Gunter Nimtz and Dr Alfons Stahlhofen, of the University of Koblenz, say they may have breached a key tenet of that theory.
The pair say they have conducted an experiment in which microwave photons - energetic packets of light - travelled "instantaneously" between a pair of prisms that had been moved up to 3ft apart.
Being able to travel faster than the speed of light would lead to a wide variety of bizarre consequences.
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For instance, an astronaut moving faster than it would theoretically arrive at a destination before leaving.
The scientists were investigating a phenomenon called quantum tunnelling, which allows sub-atomic particles to break apparently unbreakable laws.
Dr Nimtz told New Scientist magazine: "For the time being, this is the only violation of special relativity that I know of."
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Can you feel the cell dying and renewing every moment inside your bones and hack can you feel the hair that died and dropped off your head everyday? Sometimes, I think you are so stupid it gets on my nerves... luckily I practice no-self and do not let your ignorance affect me...Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Your ignorance in answering my question wrongly is due to the fact that at the moment the deceased passed away and me are not connected in any way, physically or otherwise and not due to conditioning or conditioned arising. Hence it is logically proven we are not linked in any nature.
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Why don't we hack off your head and see if you got no-self via a post-mortem?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Can you feel the cell dying and renewing every moment inside your bones and hack can you feel the hair that died and dropped off your head everyday? Sometimes, I think you are so stupid it gets on my nerves... luckily I practice no-self and do not let your ignorance affect me... Talking with scientific logic doesn't appeal to your mental faculties then talking nonsense might. -
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
So if there are no conditions to arise from, I can't understand you? I highly doubt so. If I can't feel what you feel, then I am wrong? Even if you wait for billions of kalpa, conditions will not arise because there are no conditions for the conditions to arise from.
I am completely clear and answered you correctly.
On the other hand, your ignorance and inability to understand what I am saying is because the conditions were [b]not there for you to understand it yet.
Conditioned arising only happens, as the term suggests, when there is the conditions for it to arise.
Update: when there is cause and conditions, whether 10 metres or 10 billion light years apart, conditioned arising WILL happen, there is no where and no who. When conditions are NOT there, they will not arise even if you try to force it.[/b] -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
If there is no conditions for you to understand, you won't.
So if there are no conditions to arise from, I can't understand you?I highly doubt so. If I can't feel what you feel, then I am wrong?
I have no idea what you are talking about.Even if you wait for billions of kalpa, conditions will not arise because there are no conditions for the conditions to arise from.
Again I have absolutely no ideas what you are talking about.
One day, conditions will definitely arise. Even though it might be a very long time. -
Why no more faith? How come existence comes into being here?
The human mind has the propensity to dwell into the cosmic, the abstract, the metaphysical and the netherworld.
Why can't we be more down to Earth? The argument on existence can be simplified. If not there is no end. Just like the question on existence of God.
Quite frankly, I don't care if a river existed before, existing now, non-existing, existing from moment to moment, ...... After all, nobody ever goes to war over a non-existing river! But a non-existing God? -
In Buddhism, nothing's down to earth....Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:Why no more faith? How come existence comes into being here?
The human mind has the propensity to dwell into the cosmic, the abstract, the metaphysical and the netherworld.
Why can't we be more down to Earth? The argument on existence can be simplified. If not there is no end. Just like the question on existence of God.
Quite frankly, I don't care if a river existed before, existing now, non-existing, existing from moment to moment, ...... After all, nobody ever goes to war over a non-existing river! But a non-existing God? -
Have u found ur elephant yet?Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:Why no more faith? How come existence comes into being here?
The human mind has the propensity to dwell into the cosmic, the abstract, the metaphysical and the netherworld.
Why can't we be more down to Earth? The argument on existence can be simplified. If not there is no end. Just like the question on existence of God.
Quite frankly, I don't care if a river existed before, existing now, non-existing, existing from moment to moment, ...... After all, nobody ever goes to war over a non-existing river! But a non-existing God? -
Buddhism IS down to earth.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:In Buddhism, nothing's down to earth.... -
hahaha you really think that if you hack off your head, at a postmortem they will find a " Herzog_Zwei" in existence?Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Why don't we hack off your head and see if you got no-self via a post-mortem? Talking with scientific logic doesn't appeal to your mental faculties then talking nonsense might. What, Freddy Krueger is your fren? -
If Freddy ain't my buddy, then Jason might be....Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:hahaha you really think that if you hack off your head, at a postmortem they will find a " Herzog_Zwei" in existence? What, Freddy Krueger is your fren? Wanna try and find out? 
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I see, in Christianity, everything is up in heaven ....... where the non-existing God resides!Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:In Buddhism, nothing's down to earth.... -
hahaha, fancy a Calvinist come here to look for elephant ......Originally posted by laoda99:Have u found ur elephant yet?
where are your silly claps? -
With the 3 strands of deep and abstract science, I don't think it's down to earth in any way.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Buddhism IS down to earth. -
How can eightfold path be any more down to earth.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:With the 3 strands of deep and abstract science, I don't think it's down to earth in any way. -
Correct, so why bother to believe in any religion?Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:I see, in Christianity, everything is up in heaven ....... where the non-existing God resides! -
Hmmm .... do you?Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Correct, so why bother to believe in any religion? -
Here u are.....Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:hahaha, fancy a Calvinist come here to look for elephant ......
where are your silly claps?
Silly claps for silly Mr. Earth!!!
~clap clap clap
three cheers for Mr. Earth, the elephant man! -
Ah, Calvinist the depraved human. Have you reveal your true self?Originally posted by laoda99:Here u are.....
Silly claps for silly Mr. Earth!!!
~clap clap clap
three cheers for Mr. Earth, the elephant man! -
Originally posted by laoda99:Here u are.....
Silly claps for silly Mr. Earth!!!
~clap clap clap
three cheers for Mr. Earth, the elephant man!
p.s. pls be kind to each other ok
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To me, all religions are nonsense.....Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:Hmmm .... do you? -
Hmmm ..... slightly better than opium? Opium will numb all your senses!Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:To me, all religions are nonsense..... -
Yes, and to comment on Buddhism, on contrary Buddhism does not numb anyone but awakens everyone.Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:Hmmm ..... slightly better than opium? Opium will numb all your senses!