"Can zao ka gin zao."
Originally posted by Rock^Star:that's why we must plan really far ahead. Cant imagine if I have 2 kids and a wife, supporting a property and a car and then at 40, my employer tells me bye bye. This is the main reason why I have ventured abroad to do my stuff.
which country you migrated to?
what do you have that makes it easy for you to migrate?
Seriously this has happened for many years already. It has become more severe in recent years. My dad was asked to leave at 50 and wah lau eh, the future looked bleak. Me and my bro were only in secondary. Mum was homemaker. And he didnt wanna accept a job with a much lower salary...so how? He went abroad for 15 years to earn the same package.
Originally posted by Rock^Star:that's why we must plan really far ahead. Cant imagine if I have 2 kids and a wife, supporting a property and a car and then at 40, my employer tells me bye bye. This is the main reason why I have ventured abroad to do my stuff.
smart.
Originally posted by Rock^Star:that's why we must plan really far ahead. Cant imagine if I have 2 kids and a wife, supporting a property and a car and then at 40, my employer tells me bye bye. This is the main reason why I have ventured abroad to do my stuff.
All fate and our rice bowl lies on each employees hand.
Whether they want us or not, depends on them.
And govt can only talk and talk, can do nothing but give figures to the publics to see and read.
Originally posted by dechang:
which country you migrated to?what do you have that makes it easy for you to migrate?
well, let's just say I'm employed by a joint cooperation by singaporeans and indonesians in indo. Plus, my wife is indonesian.
Originally posted by Rock^Star:so suay meh....forever stuck in a pay that does not commensurate with qualifications. So far I havent anyone like that.
i have heard of a diploma graduate doing a temp job for 5 years already and a degree graduate doing a temp job for 2 years..
both unable to find a perm job..
Originally posted by likeyou:
All fate and our rice bowl lies on each employees hand.Whether they want us or not, depends on them.
And govt can only talk and talk, can do nothing but give figures to the publics to see and read.
My dad was replaced by a uni grad with much lower pay expectations. It's nothing personal, just business. The company had every right to cut their costs. It's a fact of globalization these days. Only PAP rice bowls are guaranteed. Private sector, unless you are people like richard branson or tony fernandez, one better be prepared for life in the 40s and 50s. It can just turn its back on you in the blink of an eye.
Originally posted by dechang:
i have heard of a diploma graduate doing a temp job for 5 years already and a degree graduate doing a temp job for 2 years..both unable to find a perm job..
Probably expectations higher.
Originally posted by Junyang700:Yup. Somewhere there. To be frank, they pay well for the job scope and position if you benchmark with other organisations of the same industry.
actually you don't need a degree to be a restaurant manager..
but with a degree in f & b, what other jobs can you apply for?
Everyday take mrt, there will be one prcs standing beside me.
I wonder whether I am working in shanghai or not.
Originally posted by Junyang700:Probably expectations higher.
no. they just want a normal job
We cant beat foreigners in term of salary package.
They can work 12 hours+ with low salary.
Their survival is fantastic.
Originally posted by dechang:
i have heard of a diploma graduate doing a temp job for 5 years already and a degree graduate doing a temp job for 2 years..both unable to find a perm job..
a friend of mine graduated from SIM for 2 years already. Went for a few interviews, only RWS offered him a job. Even then, the pay was $2500. Quite lousy for an engineering asst who has experience.
Originally posted by Rock^Star:a friend of mine graduated from SIM for 2 years already. Went for a few interviews, only RWS offered him a job. Even then, the pay was $2500. Quite lousy for an engineering asst who has experience.
Quite lucky to get a job at RWS..alot of ppl want to go RWS to work but can't get in..
Originally posted by likeyou:We cant beat foreigners in term of salary package.
They can work 12 hours+ with low salary.
Their survival is fantastic.
Low salary is high to them.
Cos in China they can times 5.
$800 times 5 = RMB4,000.
$1200 times 5 = RMB6,000
Originally posted by Rock^Star:My dad was replaced by a uni grad with much lower pay expectations. It's nothing personal, just business. The company had every right to cut their costs. It's a fact of globalization these days. Only PAP rice bowls are guaranteed. Private sector, unless you are people like richard branson or tony fernandez, one better be prepared for life in the 40s and 50s. It can just turn its back on you in the blink of an eye.
Cost is the main issue to the organisation.
Bottom line = black.
And the rest, organisation no interested.
Organisation can employ locals, but cost will be increased and pushes down the profit.
Originally posted by Junyang700:Low salary is high to them.
Cos in China they can times 5.
$800 times 5 = RMB4,000.
$1200 times 5 = RMB6,000
That is their solid secret weapons.
Family at china, alone working here in spore.
Save and save, change to rmb, their family becomes rich.
Locals???? More and more chialet, due to cost of living increases everyday.
Originally posted by likeyou:
Cost is the main issue to the organisation.Bottom line = black.
And the rest, organisation no interested.
Organisation can employ locals, but cost will be increased and pushes down the profit.
Govt should act in, regulate, but they dun.
Originally posted by dechang:
actually you don't need a degree to be a restaurant manager..but with a degree in f & b, what other jobs can you apply for?
mine is a degree in business management, not degree in f&b.
Originally posted by Rock^Star:a friend of mine graduated from SIM for 2 years already. Went for a few interviews, only RWS offered him a job. Even then, the pay was $2500. Quite lousy for an engineering asst who has experience.
If can get a $2.5k job is consider very lucky.
Good thing is the employers never pick a foreigners that can work only for $1.5k per month.
Originally posted by Junyang700:Govt should act in, regulate, but they dun.
They cannot offend the investors for they will ship and leave spore, more jobless.
Originally posted by Junyang700:mine is a degree in business management, not degree in f&b.
than you should find a office job..
like maybe admin executive etc. salary should be higher than 1.7k..
Originally posted by likeyou:
If can get a $2.5k job is consider very lucky.Good thing is the employers never pick a foreigners that can work only for $1.5k per month.
haha bloody true.
I always tell my colleagues and friends that we have jobs, we are very fortunate. Work hard for your salary, work hard to prove to your employer that we locals are far far better than foreigners.
Let employers see and feel it for themselves that locals are still the best compare to hiring the foreigners.