MOM is useless!
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This is a true story which happened to my friend.
He resigned from his ex company. According to his ex company's HR policy, staffs who resigned will get their last month salary by cheque within 1 week from his last day of work.
After waiting for 2 weeks and calling the HR department many times to check, they keep on saying that they are in the process of preparing the cheque.
So after 2 weeks, he went to MOM to make a complain.
He went down to MOM and they told him he need to make a appointment, cannot just walk in. So they booked a appointment for him 4 working days later as they say that all slots are fully booked.
So when the day of the appointment reached he went down to MOM.
He told the MOM staff everything and gave the HR director contact number. The MOM staff called the HR director but she was not in. The HR Assistant answered the call and say that they will prepare the cheque for him within 1 week.
He gave the HR director email address to the MOM officer so that she can email the HR director to chase for his salary but the MOM officer say that this is a call centre and they got no email.
He ask the MOM Officer what if after 1 week the company still never pay him salary. She ask him to call MOM to book another appointment again and that she will record in the system what happen today so that if next time he comes down again and he meet another officer, the officer will be able to follow up on this case. She also say that the next time he can pay $3 to lodge a case with MOM labour court if the company still never pay
This shows how useless MOM is.
First, you have to wait for 4 working days just to book an appointment to go down to make a complain.
Than, the MOM officers don't even have email account. They got a system for them to record down what happen but got no email account. Is the government so stingy until don't even want to give their staffs a email account?
Than, go to labour court also must pay $3. Singaporeans pay taxes to the government and now when they are in trouble the government don't even want to protect them and charge them if they want to help them.
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wth. pay $3 for what?! when he didnt do anything wrong.
and his company's HR is also damn screwed up. stingy and slow.... and if they cannot pay within 1 week then DUN PUT IT DOWN IN BLACK AND WHITE.
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Ya screw MOM! MOM plain sucks and useless!
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Originally posted by Chester_Lim:
Ya screw MOM! MOM plain sucks and useless!
chill chill.. ppl working inside are all well fed and protected by the govt. so they take their own sweet sugar candy time to do their tasks... nobody can do anything.. -
Originally posted by Cheerin:
chill chill.. ppl working inside are all well fed and protected by the govt. so they take their own sweet sugar candy time to do their tasks... nobody can do anything..When the govt gets voted out in the next election I hope those ppl inside will lose their job too
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Originally posted by Chester_Lim:
When the govt gets voted out in the next election I hope those ppl inside will lose their job too
i think it is almost impossible for the govt to be out. one day LKY is still around, one day govt will survive.unless to climb up the ladder fast enough to reform the whole MOM.
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Originally posted by Cheerin:
i think it is almost impossible for the govt to be out. one day LKY is still around, one day govt will survive.unless to climb up the ladder fast enough to reform the whole MOM.
LKY won't be around for long
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Originally posted by Chester_Lim:
LKY won't be around for long
but he still looks strong. still can attend NDP and wave. -
they got email accts
just dun want to give u
this is between the employer and (ex)employee, how the ex-employee bother to press the co. for these things
MOM not help u chase for salary one, they can oni put it on file and in case the co. is involved in some illegal dealings, these are the records
and MOM guidelines are oni for ref. the co.'s agreement in black and white (the one u shd have scrutinised first before signing, and make sure u have a copy too) is the one tts valid in law. -
our labour laws protect the employers more than the employees?
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Originally posted by dragg:
our labour laws protect the employers more than the employees?
seems like
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Originally posted by FireIce:
they got email accts
just dun want to give u
this is between the employer and (ex)employee, how the ex-employee bother to press the co. for these things
MOM not help u chase for salary one, they can oni put it on file and in case the co. is involved in some illegal dealings, these are the records
and MOM guidelines are oni for ref. the co.'s agreement in black and white (the one u shd have scrutinised first before signing, and make sure u have a copy too) is the one tts valid in law.What nonsense you talking.
The co's agreement is stated in black and write that when a staff resign his salary will be paid by cheque within 1 week.
My friend did not ask the MOM officer for her email account. He just ask her to email the HR director since the HR director is not in the office
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yeah, rber to keep in touch with the HR director.
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Singapore Government go eat shit and cow dung!!!!!!!!!!!!
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good fertilisers
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Originally posted by dragg:
our labour laws protect the employers more than the employees?
. . . .. answer: yes. In the eye of the spore govt. . . .. . employers are of more value to them. -
Chester lim, . . .. . .. . . . what they want is money money money . . . . .. . in every chance they can find to . . . . make money . . . . . they are happy.
. . . . after reading your friend's story . . . i am disappointed. When I had problem with my excompany . . .. not paying me my last salary . . . .. I called MOM they were . .. so professional on the phone and . . .. assured me they will help me . . . if I need them to chase for salary payment from my ex company.
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1) Always call to enquire about action to be taken, before going down. Now you know.
2) Collate the evidence yourself. If i am the MOM officer, and some guy just show up, and claim this and that, I can only call the employers to find out their side of the story before I dare to commit to any action. What if the story is not true, gana sabo also don't know?
3) Always email the company yourself. And than forward any reply you get to the authorities. Why are you even pushing this to the MOM officer? no wonder they are loaded with work til appointments takes 4 days.
4) If possible, do things online. Black and white record is easier for MOM to handle, and anything wrong, easier for you to refer, compared to phone call. (e.g. no action taken by MOM for 1 week, can forward email to MP)
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Originally posted by Chester_Lim:
What nonsense you talking.
The co's agreement is stated in black and write that when a staff resign his salary will be paid by cheque within 1 week.
My friend did not ask the MOM officer for her email account. He just ask her to email the HR director since the HR director is not in the office
pay last salary within 7 days is the law. but for overtime pay, is 14 days.
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Originally posted by we sacrifice:
Chester lim, . . .. . .. . . . what they want is money money money . . . . .. . in every chance they can find to . . . . make money . . . . . they are happy.
. . . . after reading your friend's story . . . i am disappointed. When I had problem with my excompany . . .. not paying me my last salary . . . .. I called MOM they were . .. so professional on the phone and . . .. assured me they will help me . . . if I need them to chase for salary payment from my ex company.
So did your ex company pay you? They pay you without MOM interference?
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Originally posted by skythewood:
1) Always call to enquire about action to be taken, before going down. Now you know.
2) Collate the evidence yourself. If i am the MOM officer, and some guy just show up, and claim this and that, I can only call the employers to find out their side of the story before I dare to commit to any action. What if the story is not true, gana sabo also don't know?
3) Always email the company yourself. And than forward any reply you get to the authorities. Why are you even pushing this to the MOM officer? no wonder they are loaded with work til appointments takes 4 days.
4) If possible, do things online. Black and white record is easier for MOM to handle, and anything wrong, easier for you to refer, compared to phone call. (e.g. no action taken by MOM for 1 week, can forward email to MP)
2. Of course my friend got bring down all the evidence lah like his letter of resignation etc stating his last day of work, the employee handbook which states that when you resign your last month salary will be paid by cheque within 1 week from your last day of work etc.
3. Of course my friend got email the company lah and got no reply. When he went to MOM, the MOM officer who book the appointment for him asked him all the details and even asked him to forward the email to them.
The company never reply his email so he no choice but to go down to MOM to check with them on what to do laj..
4. Whats there to do online except to email the company and forward the email to MOM?
Even than, the MOM Officer will still have to ask you to go down to meet them and get the details from you first what
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if the MOM are really good, they would have reminded the company of the relevant law involved and threaten a fine. Seems like all they do is just call and call. Lydat, my friend also can do lol.
They should call themselves, MOH....ministry of helpers.
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I would never approach any of our ministries for help, because they are all only good at tai chi. I believe if you ever want anything done, you should do it yourself.
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where is MOM? The location?
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Originally posted by Chester_Lim:
2. Of course my friend got bring down all the evidence lah like his letter of resignation etc stating his last day of work, the employee handbook which states that when you resign your last month salary will be paid by cheque within 1 week from your last day of work etc.
3. Of course my friend got email the company lah and got no reply. When he went to MOM, the MOM officer who book the appointment for him asked him all the details and even asked him to forward the email to them.
The company never reply his email so he no choice but to go down to MOM to check with them on what to do laj..
4. Whats there to do online except to email the company and forward the email to MOM?
Even than, the MOM Officer will still have to ask you to go down to meet them and get the details from you first what
2. Letter of resignation ==> Anyone can type but not submit? Any written reply by the HR acknowledging the receipt of the letter? Also, proof of non receipt of salary (i.e CPF contribution) The employee handbook is not necessary, paying salary within one week is MOM law.
3. If got forward the email to MOM, they would have sent an email to you acknowledging the receipt of your email. forward to your MP.
4. The thing to do online is to document all the lodging of the complaint you made. This is the first step in building up your civil suit to sue the company for non payment of salary
If the MOM officer ask you to go down to get details, it will be short and sweet, since everything is documented.