I was surprised that there is someone who defend the company here lol.
anyway, if the company doesnt pay well or the job or company culture sucks, staff turnover rate is high. there will always be other people who will take up the position, no matter what, cos they need to bring home the bacon home every month, even if the company sucks to the core.
Originally posted by Danny_RGS:
Carry on with your negative posting. I think you are just someone refuse to listen to clarification and just harping on the same issues over and over again. I admire your persistence in this instances, even though you behaviour may not be someone of a sound mind.
you are so dense..... where are my negative postings with regard to Gain City??? you are making all these stupid accusations without a shred of evidence.....
you are not different from the accusers of your company!
but as I'd said many times before, i HAVE NO PROBLEM with Gain City, which part of this simple statement is difficult for you to understand...
i do have a problem, however, with your ability to comprehend simple statements.
Originally posted by Danny_RGS:Chin Eng, why are u so uptight on Jovinmarketing? Admin advise as long as there is a police report lodge, they will release Ip address. Read up more on legality before you speak.
admin actually replied you...? wow.
obviously i know that admin will release IP address... didn't i already say it in my first post?.... however it is the police report that is the crux.... you think police got so much time to investigate similar sound name, especially where there is no conflict of interest....?
there is really no law governing the use of nicknames on the internet even though the nick may sound the same as a company.
now that you are interested in reporting to police, you need to balance as to what is more important.... someone using a purportedly legal business, ie Jovin Marketing, but with no malice, vs someone badmouthing your company... to you which is more damaging?
you obviously got no balls to report to the police over the post on Gain City....
Originally posted by Danny_RGS:You can say whatever you like. You have the freedom of speech. But do remember, everyone has to be responsible for their own speech eventually, whether online or offline. Do not stop your post. Do not disappoint me please. I am enjoying your flamming post. Please keep me entertain with your post. At least your post helps to relieve me off my work stress, at times.
you are getting dumber by the minute...
why would i want to stop posting?
haha u pple are getting all worked up. relax la......
Originally posted by Rock^Star:haha u pple are getting all worked up. relax la......
some people get worked up because his company was mailgned.... and cannot take constructive criticism.
OK nothing can be worst then this...
I used to worked in this company call Gateway Pacific Systems....the guy call Philip goes around telling his client that they are subsidary of gateway etc....
Whats worst?!?!! The company owes the employee salary at the time I was with them...not only one employee...but 3-4 of them!! So I quit...but not till they owe me like 3K salary...1 1/2 months later....sigh...so dumb and silly of me...
Went to MOM but they say cos my salary higher then 1.6k they dun help me with court case...end up I gotta get my own lawyer to deal with them...won the case 5-6 years ago and till now never get any money back....
Originally posted by MPS_Angels:OK nothing can be worst then this...
I used to worked in this company call Gateway Pacific Systems....the guy call Philip goes around telling his client that they are subsidary of gateway etc....
Whats worst?!?!! The company owes the employee salary at the time I was with them...not only one employee...but 3-4 of them!! So I quit...but not till they owe me like 3K salary...1 1/2 months later....sigh...so dumb and silly of me...
Went to MOM but they say cos my salary higher then 1.6k they dun help me with court case...end up I gotta get my own lawyer to deal with them...won the case 5-6 years ago and till now never get any money back....
Hi MPS_Angels
This the risk of working for small company. The boss can suka suka do what they like with a work enviroment that is pro-employer and with employee being not legally savy.
Employee can be helpless against such cheating, deviant, bully boss.
hmm....one thing i noticed about gain city, harvey norman and courts.....a lot of ah bengs selling their appliances.
Originally posted by MPS_Angels:OK nothing can be worst then this...
I used to worked in this company call Gateway Pacific Systems....the guy call Philip goes around telling his client that they are subsidary of gateway etc....
Whats worst?!?!! The company owes the employee salary at the time I was with them...not only one employee...but 3-4 of them!! So I quit...but not till they owe me like 3K salary...1 1/2 months later....sigh...so dumb and silly of me...
Went to MOM but they say cos my salary higher then 1.6k they dun help me with court case...end up I gotta get my own lawyer to deal with them...won the case 5-6 years ago and till now never get any money back....
Dunno why the MOM so dumb fucked, enact employment act that helps A levels and earning 1.6k and below people. those earning 1.6k and above, like 2-4k also needed help what. those earning 1.7k, just a mere 100 dollars more, MOM dun help? really stupid man. really need to tell the minister for manpower gan kim yong on this stupid ruling.
so you won the case and never get any money back? was there any enforcement by the court and how much you spent on legal fees sia?
then whats the point of engaging lawyer if you won the case with no enforcement?
Originally posted by Rock^Star:hmm....one thing i noticed about gain city, harvey norman and courts.....a lot of ah bengs selling their appliances.
there is always a good reason as to why this is so..... but bringing it out will be opening Pandora's box.
Originally posted by Chin Eng:there is always a good reason as to why this is so..... but bringing it out will be opening Pandora's box.
why ah bengs sell appliances? reason is simple, if the pay and job is that good, you will see many singaporeans rushing to apply it. obviously they dun pay that well, and who wants to work retail hours and you need to stand all day long at the store. its hard attracting sg to work in retail line already, who knows, next time you will see foreigners selling appliances there.
If you work for People's Association(PA) don't ever chose to work at Tampines East CC.
Their boss Wu Min Min who is the Senior Constitutency Manager(SCM) in charge of that CC is a bitch.
She likes to ill treat staffs and there is high resignation rate over there
Originally posted by MPS_Angels:OK nothing can be worst then this...
I used to worked in this company call Gateway Pacific Systems....the guy call Philip goes around telling his client that they are subsidary of gateway etc....
Whats worst?!?!! The company owes the employee salary at the time I was with them...not only one employee...but 3-4 of them!! So I quit...but not till they owe me like 3K salary...1 1/2 months later....sigh...so dumb and silly of me...
Went to MOM but they say cos my salary higher then 1.6k they dun help me with court case...end up I gotta get my own lawyer to deal with them...won the case 5-6 years ago and till now never get any money back....
So the remaining 3 to 4 employee never take legal action against the company?
Btw I think if you are ntuc member ntuc will help you fight the case for free?
Chin Eng, if you read my earlier post properly, you will know i have not mentioned anything about going to the authority otherwise I would not have clarified here.
What I was saying is Jovin marketing is real person existing and she is going to the police because someone else has pose off as her. Now do you understand? Dumb ass....
I think by you hiding behind the scene whining, unable to listen to clarification are real dumb yourself.
And I have openly invited you to my office but I bet you will not have the guts to show up. So who has no balls here? Only gutless guy like you would like to muffle up my earlier points hoping that people here will forget that you have rejected an open opportunity for you to air your disagreement face to face.
Maybe because you are from the opposite sex, I supposed.
Originally posted by Danny_RGS:Chin Eng, if you read my earlier post properly, you will know i have not mentioned anything about going to the authority otherwise I would not have clarified here.
What I was saying is Jovin marketing is real person existing and she is going to the police because someone else has pose off as her. Now do you understand? Dumb ass....
I think by you hiding behind the scene whining, unable to listen to clarification are real dumb yourself.
And I have openly invited you to my office but I bet you will not have the guts to show up. So who has no balls here? Only gutless guy like you would like to muffle up my earlier points hoping that people here will forget that you have rejected an open opportunity for you to air your disagreement face to face.
Maybe because you are from the opposite sex, I supposed.
the point being.... you will ask someone to go to the authorities merely because the names are the same, but when you own company, which you are defending, is being maligned you have no balls to do the same.
??? Jovin marketing is a person???? her/his surname is "marketing"??? Please keep us posted on the case....
i am not really interesting in any clarification because in the first place i have no complaints about Gain City.... simple statement enough for you? AGAIN, I REPEAT.... PLEASE SHOW ME A THREAD THAT I HAD POSTED THAT I HAD COMPLAINS ABOUT GAIN CITY OR THAT I HAD MADE A NEGATIVE COMMENT ABOUT GAIN CITY.... SIMPLE REQUEST! NOT DIFFICULT TO DO EVEN FOR A SIMPLETON LIKE YOURSELF. You know why you have not done so? Because I have not posted anything negative about Gain City.... It is a very simple bet... SHOW ME WHERE I'D POSTED... and I will reveal my real name, and not only that I will deliver a hamper in your name to your company to apologise..... oh, not only will I give you a hamper, I will personally come and deliver the hamper to you!
Simple answer: yes or no?
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"Maybe because you are from the opposite sex, I supposed." a statement like that goes to show the kind of person you really are... a simpleminded sexist....
Originally posted by Rooney9:why ah bengs sell appliances? reason is simple, if the pay and job is that good, you will see many singaporeans rushing to apply it. obviously they dun pay that well, and who wants to work retail hours and you need to stand all day long at the store. its hard attracting sg to work in retail line already, who knows, next time you will see foreigners selling appliances there.
already happening.... foreigners selling appliances.... actually most of the time give better service.
denny, no need to talk so much.... just show the world where, I, Chin Eng, had made a negative comment about Gain City as you had claimed.... i am not even interested in clarifying anymore.... you had made an accusation.... please substantiate the accusation.... otherwise you are just a big fat liar...
Originally posted by MPS_Angels:OK nothing can be worst then this...
I used to worked in this company call Gateway Pacific Systems....the guy call Philip goes around telling his client that they are subsidary of gateway etc....
Whats worst?!?!! The company owes the employee salary at the time I was with them...not only one employee...but 3-4 of them!! So I quit...but not till they owe me like 3K salary...1 1/2 months later....sigh...so dumb and silly of me...
Went to MOM but they say cos my salary higher then 1.6k they dun help me with court case...end up I gotta get my own lawyer to deal with them...won the case 5-6 years ago and till now never get any money back....
I can empathise with you on your predicament. A worker works at his own expense for 30 days under the contractual terms of being assured of full pay by then.
There are bills to pay, stomachs to feed, and in the case of women, cosmetics, dresses internal and external, etc. All such costs are borned by the workers.
And when the employer screws around with pay, the worker is stuck with a liquidity problem. Worse if it gets dragged on for weeks.
THIS MUST STOP!!
Currently we can take legal action, some did, but the costs sometimes are more than what the salaries owed. There is MOM, but there is something that is seriously wrong with MOM if it only intends to help those whom are of lower salaries.
Commendable as it once was and still is, but the rationale needs to be updated and upgraded. Majority of us citizens, now in the era of cheap foreign labour, had been elevated to mid management levels. Only few citizens and mostly foreigners are below the 1700/mth cap.
If the MOM, a singapore born and bred institution, continues with its policy, then it may well be serving foriegn interests and not our fellow citizens interests. We do not need unions, for unions mostly serve low wage earners, but MOM is still a power employers need to contend with if they hope to do honest biz here.
We had seen how little or no regulation/interference in private enterprise had destroyed the financial wealth of the world and entrap us all into looming poverty, thus no more must we allow it to happen again. MOM must be given the power to stand up to employers.
Another aspect is the CPF owed by employers. Even if they dont pay salaries, CPF is unlikely to let them go on the CPF owed. No one screws around with CPF. On this, workers can be assured of CPF Board's teeth.
And thus, the last option is this site and thread. The TS, as mentioned, has no intention to penalise any employer or employee. No employer is perfect and no employee seeks for the skies.
If any worker is abused, and has the evidence to back it up, this may be an outlet. No that it may resolved his problem, but it will help others to shunned his ex-company, shame it to either better performance or die a natural death. Such company must not be allowed to exists if it intends to make use of our intelligent workforce, take advantage of them, for their own selfish aims or lack of leadership in management.
plenty of jobs at Gain City: http://www.gaincity.com/organisation/career_jobs.asp
good opportunity for those looking for work.
Chin Eng, I am laughing dead hard now. It seems that you never understand simple English. Why would I be sure you will do what you promised when your name are fake and you don't even dare to accept my invitation face to face?
Your amusing act really makes my day..hahahahahahahahahahah
Thanks for providing the entertainment though...
Originally posted by Danny_RGS:Chin Eng, I am laughing dead hard now. It seems that you never understand simple English. Why would I be sure you will do what you promised when your name are fake and you don't even dare to accept my invitation face to face?
Your amusing act really makes my day..hahahahahahahahahahah
Thanks for providing the entertainment though...
even if i am going to lie to you and go back on my words, just merely pointing out where i had made negative comments about your company would have destroyed my credibility...... so simple.... i am handing to you a golden opportunity.... take it! show the world where i, Chin Eng, had made deragotory remarks about Gain City as you had alleged so many times.
Denny-boy, you show me where i made negative comments about Gain City - you win.
i don't keep my part of the bargain, you can tell the world - you win.
from where i am standing.... it's win-win for you.
but but but.... if you don't show or can't show where i'd made the negative comments that you had alleged, you lose.... big time!
xtreyier, I agreed with your point. CPF is one thing that employers can't run away. My ex-company went bankrupt as well, without paying us salary but in the end the ex-owners are compelled to pay CPF, and now they are paying us back the owed salary as they want to clear theor bankruptcy status.
Chin Eng, I have already replied and I don't intend to repeat myself again. What do I stand to win from someone with a fake name hiding behind the scene?
I think you should change your nick to Chin Heng, for no one knows who you really are, except keep repeating same points over and over again. Bold in red, in black, you think I care?
Really funny to me...intangible guarantee is never a guarantee meant to be..haha..you are really smart...kudos to you, masked man....haha
Originally posted by Danny_RGS:Chin Eng, I have already replied and I don't intend to repeat myself again. What do I stand to win from someone with a fake name hiding behind the scene?
I think you should change your nick to Chin Heng, for no one knows who you really are, except keep repeating same points over and over again. Bold in red, in black, you think I care?
Really funny to me...intangible guarantee is never a guarantee meant to be..haha..you are really smart...kudos to you, masked man....haha
everyone here as a nickname..... it's the practice of any forum. no one has demanded another party to review their identities. some of us actually go for outings. so it's not as invisible as you think
i did not accuse Gain City of anything. PLEASE PROVE IT.
i am repeating the same points over and over because, you Denny_RGS, has made allegations that you cannot prove, you are no different from jovinmarketing.