Working in public sector
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Hi All! Do you think working in public sector is a good choice?
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should be.........since you get to go home every day at 5 PM.
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Must see what company and what position you are...
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define good choice then discuss.......
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Originally posted by Nikar 3:
should be.........since you get to go home every day at 5 PM.
Wow so nice. I go home 5.30 le. sometimes unpaid OT somemore =((
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Originally posted by Ms.shells:
Wow so nice. I go home 5.30 le. sometimes unpaid OT somemore =((
Everything blame the economy.
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depend on the kind of person u are...
slacker ish good for gov job.. iron bowl....
dun really care abt performance.....
outside, if u can make it... u get more in return....
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you actually believe the "expert on things he knows nothing about" ?
well, maybe if you're a clerical support officer, you can go back on time... but most do not..
if you're an exec, you'll probably be putting in lots of unpaid OT... simply because you're not eligible for OT pay... but you'll be saddled with shitloads of work anyway...
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Originally posted by the Bear:
you actually believe the "expert on things he knows nothing about" ?
well, maybe if you're a clerical support officer, you can go back on time... but most do not..
if you're an exec, you'll probably be putting in lots of unpaid OT... simply because you're not eligible for OT pay... but you'll be saddled with shitloads of work anyway...
actually if I'm not wrong non-exec in govt job also no OT pay de anyway
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Originally posted by hisoka:
actually if I'm not wrong non-exec in govt job also no OT pay de anyway
yah.. lots don't get OT pay.. but still made to work... -
if gov job oso need to do upaid OTs....
then i rather go for non- gov jobs....
coz unlike gov, they are profit driven....
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
if gov job oso need to do upaid OTs....
then i rather go for non- gov jobs....
coz unlike gov, they are profit driven....
Government Jobs no unpaid OT - Myth busted.
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If you wanna work in the public sector, make sure you hold the top or senior positions, if not you will be most of the time be on the receiving end of receiving shit.
There again the dirty politics in the sort of environment and positions vary.
Politics is every where, is common. But when it comes to office politics in govt co environment it can be many times worse than that of the private sector. I said this base on my experience.
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What does your good choice cover?
If you like pro family jobs, govt job is for you. If you like higher returns based on performance, then govt job is not for you.Having my annual bonus tied to the annual GDP is not my thing, nor am I pro family, hence I'm not in govt job.
I don't like to do WITs either, but I think its called something else these days.I can tell you for certain, my pay, benefits, and bonuses are all tied to my performance, this is the way I like it. Unlike my previous company, I can slack all I want, end of the day I still get what others spent their hard work on, now that's crap.
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Oh, one more thing, if you wish to enter public sector, make sure your paper is recognised.
They are best at seeing paper values only. If you want faster promotion, learn to por, to get your pormotions. Otherwise, you'll just be like me, need to work your ass off to get your promotion. -
Originally posted by EarlNeo:
if gov job oso need to do upaid OTs....
then i rather go for non- gov jobs....
coz unlike gov, they are profit driven....
Now non-gov companies are all making loss leh -
Time to 'rebrand' the civil service?
By Alicia Wong, TODAY | Posted: 16 June 2009 0645 hrsSINGAPORE: What if working in the civil service meant you had at least half-a-day off a week to work on innovative ideas? Or you could give suggestions via an employee online forum and have others vote for your idea?
To attract the young, net-savvy generation into the civil service, governments need to redefine the workplace, said Mr Steve Ressler, co-founder of the United States non-profit organisation Young Government Leaders, at the inaugural iGov Global Exchange held here on Monday.
Drawing from well-known examples such as Google's popular workplace and the United States Transport Security Administration's Idea factory, Mr Ressler said the Net generation wants its voice heard.
"Government service is seen as a place where people think (employees) are lazy, not an exciting place to work," he said. It needs to be "rebranded" as work that "makes a difference in the world now".
The 28-year-old, who had joined the US government after graduation, noted the lack of young faces in the organisation. In Singapore, the perennial challenge is to draw and retain top young talent.
A survey last June by the Singapore e-Government Leadership Centre (eGL) found only 29 per cent of some 2,000 respondents would choose the civil service as their first option, compared with 49 per cent who preferred working for a multinational company.
While the recession may have helped change sentiments for the moment - a recent BrightSparks survey showed 33.8 per cent of top students were keen on working for the public service, up from 23.3 per cent last year - one participant nonetheless felt hiring digital natives for the civil service was like "fitting a round peg in a square hole".
In response, eGL research director Virginia Cha was confident that showing the young generation that work in the government sector is "doing good", will succeed in attracting them.
As Mr Ressler put it: "What we do is important now, in the financial crisis, environmental crisis ... The government provides very important services and we need good people there."
Head of Singapore's feedback unit REACH, Ms Bey Mui Leng, stressed the importance of sincerity in engaging the young generation.
While previous generations saw the government as an authoritative figure, the net generation – those born between 1977 and 1997 – have "a whole generational mindset difference" there, said Ms Cha who presented the survey findings.
At work, the young generation wants to be "empowered" to define its responsibilities, they need to use web 2.0 tools and they function better in teams, she said.
Mr Ressler said: "They want to move really fast ... want their voices heard, and really value honesty and transparency. Some of these cultural issues exist in other generations, but are heightened in the net generation."
They have higher expectations of technology at work — being used, for instance, to free email services like gmail, which have far larger mailbox sizes than most work email.
Mr Ressler also suggested recruiting young people where they hang out online, such as Friendster.
In the United Kingdom, for instance, universities are soliciting applications for teachers via Facebook.
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Originally posted by 8800:
Now non-gov companies are all making loss lehat most they cut budget only mah....