Christian's GOD is not omnipotent but impotent.
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bias...............a most HUMAN trait..............
can't be clearer as to who created whom.....................
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Originally posted by Joolead:
the reason i can thing off are:
1) GOD is not at home.
2) GOD is too busy doing hand-job and blow-job for his angel and disciple.
3) GOD's procrastinate.
that right so 100 and thousand of prayer is not ans and some fucker gone insanity.. some tired of wait for the miracle to happen which is never appear.
Ha Ha Ha
It finally becomes clear.
Jooled prayed and got pissed because God was not at home. Says He is giving hj and bj to angels and procrastinate.
What a loser, must have waited and waited.
By the way what is a Christian God. God is God. Whether in this name or that name. In this form or that form.
You are lazy and expected magic from God to benefit you. Tan koo koo.
You misunderstood what God is all about.
Heard of the saying "God help those who help themself."
It means you must strive for yourself, and if you have God in your mind and heart, you will end up a better person, whether you succeeded or not.
Riches or power is not the point, the point is after all the struggle, you look back at your struggles and you feel good, because you have put up a good effort. And within yourself you have peace.
Right now your emotions are crappy because you missed the point about God. You are cursing and scolding. This shows that you are a loser.
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Originally posted by mancha:
By the way what is a Christian God. God is God. Whether in this name or that name. In this form or that form.
Don't want to start a thread but to you and Christians here, is Allah another name of God? Personal opinion please, thank you.
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Allah is God to the Muslims. Sitll God.
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Originally posted by laffin123:
in that sense, god wants to create a group of people for the heaven, while another group destined to go to hell.
Very biased god, don't you think so ?
laffin
No. Here's a very simple fact : Even Christians go to hell.The concept of Christianity is that people who sinned goes to hell. and this means everyone will go to hell because there is no one who is righteous. Due to God's grace to forgive us, he sent Jesus to pay for our sins through death.
By repenting and praying to God to forgive our sins, we are given a chance to start anew. God wants EVERYONE to repent from the sins, but not everyone do so. The ultimate decision goes to us, whether we repent or not. It does not lie with God to chose who will be save and who will be not.
So, based on what I said. Do you think a "Christian" who "repented" but sin as if it's nothing will be saved? The answer is of course : No.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Allah is God to the Muslims. Sitll God.
Well, I think you're the minority (I believe) cause most Christians I met in other forums tend to view Allah as a pagan god.
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Sg males are being biased .... and we know who create the stupid system.....
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o.o look,on idk which day,god created plants and give life,but atoms existed before plants...explain?
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Originally posted by RoyFang:
Well, I think you're the minority (I believe) cause most Christians I met in other forums tend to view Allah as a pagan god.
You don't wonder what kind of Christians these are?
Most religions have deviationist in their midst. Mainstream distance themselves from them.
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
yes....he saved us by grace.. this is absolutely true. What i meant is for those believers and those saved by him to pray to thy will.
Yes, if god not willing, no matter how sincere is the person = no answer, but if we are true believers and are saved by him, we will pray in his will and it will definitely be done. God promises this
sigh.................. if god is really like what you said even if he is real i will also not pray to him. why submit your soul to someone who can do whatever he likes to you without reasoning and compassion.
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Originally posted by mancha:
You don't wonder what kind of Christians these are?
Most religions have deviationist in their midst. Mainstream distance themselves from them.
Most of them are Americans and also some are influenced by the Americans...see the link?
Americans are mainstream Christians aren't they?
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Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
sigh.................. if god is really like what you said even if he is real i will also not pray to him. why submit your soul to someone who can do whatever he likes to you without reasoning and compassion.
Because God do what is right?Eg: Jesus prayed (3 times in total) the whole night, crying and pleading for God not to let him die because of the fear. But Jesus still die. What God gave him is the ability to cope with the situation(holy spirit with him), and not run away from it.
What would it be like if God grant Jesus's wish not to die? well, we will sure go hell.
What God ( When I say God, I don't mean church saying, I mean bible) wants us to do is always correct, but it is also very hard.
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to Fairyfairy86,
when u become a parent in future and u have to scold/cane ur 3yr old child then maybe u will understand tat to ur 3yr old child, u are like tat someone who can do wadever u want wif his life, seemingly without reasoning and compassion cos ur 3yr old child does not understand why u are caning him...pls dun say u can explain to him cos even though u can explain, it doesnt mean the 3 yr old child will definitely understand...so since he cannot understand given his age, can he conclude that u are a tyrant of a parent cos u do wadever u want wif his life without reasoning and compassion?
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Originally posted by RoyFang:
Most of them are Americans and also some are influenced by the Americans...see the link?
Americans are mainstream Christians aren't they?
What kind of Christians blow up half of a public building in Oklahoma?
What kind of Christians in America stock guns and want to start a war with the government?
Every religion have their deviationists.
Do you do thinking?
Or just swallow what other people say.
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Originally posted by laffin123:
in that sense, god wants to create a group of people for the heaven, while another group destined to go to hell.
Very biased god, don't you think so ?
laffin
not biased, that's his divine will , we can;t doubt
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Originally posted by mancha:
What kind of Christians blow up half of a public building in Oklahoma?
What kind of Christians in America stock guns and want to start a war with the government?
Every religion have their deviationists.
Do you do thinking?
Or just swallow what other people say.
Let's sum this up, basically to you every American Christians are deviationists am I right?
Thank you for your reply.
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What are you getting at?
You use blanket analogy.
If one American is a racist, does that mean all American are racist to you?
I am asking you to think.
So the American Christians you met, they represent all Christians?
I am pointing out to you, even in USA, they have Christian terrrorists. So you have to be careful, who you listen to. Do not assume just because they are Americans, therefore they are correct.
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Let's see how this end up like this...
First I pointed out most Christians I met in other forums tend to view Allah as a pagan god.
You reply asking me if I wonder what kind of Christians they are and suggest that most probably they are deviationist and mainstream Christians do not "hang out" with them.
Which to I explained they are Americans and some of them (maybe I wasn't clear but I mean Non-Americans here) were influenced by the Americans.
To which you reply:
What kind of Christians blow up half of a public building in Oklahoma?
What kind of Christians in America stock guns and want to start a war with the government?
Which I see it as referring to the American Christians (those who I debated with regarding whether Allah is or isn't God)
Or maybe you were reply to my second question, are the Americans mainstream Christians? Is that an answer to my question?
And I do not see the need to bring in the Oklahoma bombing, which I don't know what are you trying to drive at until your latest post.
Me using Blanket analogy? You got to be joking I got that impression that you were thinking this way from your replies.
I'm did not assume what they said is correct (which if I did, why would I bother debating with them?)
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Good of you to bring the discussion back to the topic.
Also nice to know you argued with those Americans.
The word Allah, has been used before Islam was founded.
It is used by the people of the the Middle East, and the Jews and Christians included, (Jews and Christians as followers of the religion, not race).
The name Allah as meaning the word God to the Jewish and Christian alike.
To the other ethnic groups Allah may mean, the Moon God, or any of the diety stored in the Kaaba at that time.
Mecca in those time was a trading hub, and various nationalities arrive there with their own representations of God. To the individual groups, it was their supreme God, to the others it was their diety.
Basically, they have all the concept of God with them. It is bigotry that deemed this God is the God, and the others are pagan.
Therefore Allah is another word for God. This has been adopted by the Islamics as the name for their God. It still represents the same entity as the Jews and the Christians, the ones that originated the word God Almighty.
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Originally posted by Joolead:
the reason i can thing off are:
1) GOD is not at home.
2) GOD is too busy doing hand-job and blow-job for his angel and disciple.
3) GOD's procrastinate.
that right so 100 and thousand of prayer is not ans and some fucker gone insanity.. some tired of wait for the miracle to happen which is never appear.
Do you know my GOD?If you don't, then I can tell you that your insults and humiliations are meaningless.
Try scolding someone when you don't know their name, don't be surprised if you're ignored.
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Originally posted by Moka:
No. Here's a very simple fact : Even Christians go to hell.The concept of Christianity is that people who sinned goes to hell. and this means everyone will go to hell because there is no one who is righteous. Due to God's grace to forgive us, he sent Jesus to pay for our sins through death.
By repenting and praying to God to forgive our sins, we are given a chance to start anew. God wants EVERYONE to repent from the sins, but not everyone do so. The ultimate decision goes to us, whether we repent or not. It does not lie with God to chose who will be save and who will be not.
So, based on what I said. Do you think a "Christian" who "repented" but sin as if it's nothing will be saved? The answer is of course : No.
anyway, salvation is by grace and not grace plus blah blah blah...so why we repent of our sins? It is the holy spirit that convicts us to repent our sins and why holy spirit come into us, is by god will.. so i felt your statements a little faulted, but overall idea is there
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You may be right, but I don't agree with the statement.
First, let me reorganise what you said in case I interpret wrong. You are implying double predestinaton. That by God's will, he DETERMINE who he will send Holy Spirit (HS) to. that is to say, he will determine who he will NOT send HS to. And this means that God has already planned who will go heaven and hell from the moment we are born.
If you think this way, Christians are no different from Jews.
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why believe in a divine being (supernatural) whose existence is still debatable and also a book which was written by some unknown ancient men?
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Originally posted by Louis dave36:
why believe in a divine being (supernatural) whose existence is still debatable and also a book which was written by some unknown ancient men?
Technically not unknown, there is in records, the names of those who wrote the books. Whether or not you believe those records is another thing.