Originally posted by Chin Eng:
quite common nowadays.... because we don't have a you-know-what.... 8-)
Then should we ask for a you-know-what?
In the case of having to prove god exists can be seen in this example. Whether or not your mother is your biological one does not really matter right? As long as she plays the part. However does god always play the part? Providing for a foster mother is much easier then praying to a figment of imagination. When something goes right you thank god. Something goes wrong u blame yourself, where got logic?
When you pray for something it doesn't happen then you say its not god's will. If it happens then you heap praises. So basically either way god is always there/correct? I myself can also create a religion, i just need a "holy" text that has the words "shall not test god", bam! You can't prove my religion is a fake. If my book got any errors can just say its misinterpretation. I can also make my own "doomsday" book. If what i write happens means i see the future, if it doesn't happen i just need to say its not in your lifetime.
Im sure many people do literature and ppl always say that a piece of writing has thousands of interpretations. The fact is, the writer only meant for there to be one interpretation. What many people are doing now is probably called over-reading into the passage.
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Originally posted by A.T.R:I need to noe whether i shuld believe in god....i have lots of punk frens and have met some unique type of frens..they call themselves Nihilist(they fvck cares everything which i tink its more or less some kind of a bullshit) and they asked my sku frens wad has god done for them....and my sku frens replied "god brought me to tis life?"...and my Nihilist frens has some point which i agree...god didn't...it was ur parents who have sex together and thn u came out and i dun see why god has a part in it...i'm starting to doubt god nowadays....i have wasted my time praying for him which i dun c its going anywhere...anyone can tell me whether i shuld continue to believe in god?
GOD that want you to give money want..very xiong now recession...
there r no god exist!!
Originally posted by dadeadman1337:I myself can also create a religion, i just need a "holy" text that has the words "shall not test god", bam! You can't prove my religion is a fake. If my book got any errors can just say its misinterpretation. I can also make my own "doomsday" book. If what i write happens means i see the future, if it doesn't happen i just need to say its not in your lifetime.
so what's holding you? Make your own religion. I would certainly be interested in observing how this religion of yours would develop through time.
Prove me that you can make people believe in lies by devising your own theology.
Come on do it you can share with us here your own theology. I'd be interested. remember just write anyhow. Don't copy. Make your own theology. Say 66 gods enough? or 6? or even one? And the 77 messiah or even one? Tell us what happens when people die according to your made up religion. Basic tehology first should suffice at first. But you need to have your own holy book. Your own place of worship and your own priest or priesteess. Come on do your talk! Or are you just a fool who writes without even thinking. we all would count how many years this religion of yours can stand? 1,000? 2,000? or more?
if u believe in it.
Originally posted by A.T.R:I need to noe whether i shuld believe in god....i have lots of punk frens and have met some unique type of frens..they call themselves Nihilist(they fvck cares everything which i tink its more or less some kind of a bullshit) and they asked my sku frens wad has god done for them....and my sku frens replied "god brought me to tis life?"...and my Nihilist frens has some point which i agree...god didn't...it was ur parents who have sex together and thn u came out and i dun see why god has a part in it...i'm starting to doubt god nowadays....i have wasted my time praying for him which i dun c its going anywhere...anyone can tell me whether i shuld continue to believe in god?
What would be different in your life if you stop believing? Nothing would change externally. Some things would change internally.
It is like, if a child stops believing in Santa Claus, nothing would change externally but somethings would change internally. What does that tell you?
Generally, it is better to live life in reality.
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
What would be different in your life if you stop believing? Nothing would change externally. Some things would change internally.
It is like, if a child stops believing in Santa Claus, nothing would change externally but somethings would change internally. What does that tell you?
Generally, it is better to live life in reality.
Oh please kid you do not need to use bold sentences just so that people would read your post.
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
Generally, it is better to live life in reality.
True so makes sure you know the truth.
That God is alive. I am one of His witness. I cannot deny what I have been allowed to see. And I cannot deny what I have been allowed to witness through prayers and faith.
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:True so makes sure you know the truth.
That God is alive. I am one of His witness. I cannot deny what I have been allowed to see. And I cannot deny what I have been allowed to witness through prayers and faith.
The truth is that God doesn't exist.
I'm sorry but the truth is that He does.
I'm saying this not merely out of conviction but out of my own testimony. God is alive. His whole body was covered by an immense white light that shone from His face. Such was the intensity of the light which was coming out from [the direction of] His face that even His figure was not able to be seen. I wasn't able to penetrate the light to see His face, I tried for several time stubbornly but in the end God made both my eyeballs hurt because of the sheer intensity of the light which was coming out from His face.
His name was Jesus. I know because I asked for Jesus(to be allowed to see His face, because I thought that all the pictures of Jesus were merely man made and not the true Jesus) and was then shown the vision after God gave me love for Jesus which was rapidly increasing in intensity in mere seconds and I felt I deserved to ask someting of God and I asked to be allowed to see Jesus face. What I saw was clear, very clear in fact and I saw it while being fully awake. I wasn't imagining things. In the end the vision faded...I didn't dare to try to see [in the direction of] His face again after both my eyes were hurt by the sheer intensity of the light which was coming out from His face so I just kind of stare at the ground.... The vision was given while I was in my 7th grade(sec 1). I'm now 29 years old.
I know for a fact that God is alive.
but at the end of the day miracles & prophecies, ur testimony is onli proof for urself. i believe in wad u said simply cos i am also a believer of the same God as u. however, for ppl who have nvr experienced a God who is beyond their 5 senses, u r either lying or hallucinating...
again i would like to state tat if we can fully comprehend n prove tat God exist, then theres no point worshipping or putting our lives in His hands cos He wil onli be as great as 15% of the human brain. for God to be God, He has to be beyond human logic. otherwise, He is no different from human beings...
Originally posted by despondent:but at the end of the day miracles & prophecies, ur testimony is onli proof for urself. i believe in wad u said simply cos i am also a believer of the same God as u. however, for ppl who have nvr experienced a God who is beyond their 5 senses, u r either lying or hallucinating...
again i would like to state tat if we can fully comprehend n prove tat God exist, then theres no point worshipping or putting our lives in His hands cos He wil onli be as great as 15% of the human brain. for God to be God, He has to be beyond human logic. otherwise, He is no different from human beings...
A testimony is a testimony whether they are accepted or not it stays as a testimony. I did my part testifying.
At that time I didn't read the bible and I expected to see a human figure of Jesus but what I saw was beyond all my expectation and only when I read the bible whenMoses blessed the Israelis that I understand.
In the mass(I'm Catholic) the pastor would say(In Malay/Indonesian): Ingatlah mereka yang telah meninggal dunia dan terimalah mereka di dalam cahaya wajahMu.
This gets translated into(more or less): Remember those who have died and accept them in the light of Your face.(meaning to have them in God's presence)
I'll be damn. It's clear I'm not the only one who 'knew'.
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:A testimony is a testimony whether they are accepted or not it stays as a testimony. I did my part testifying.
At that time I didn't read the bible and I expected to see a human figure of Jesus but what I saw was beyond all my expectation and only when I read the bible whenMoses blessed the Israelis that I understand.
In the mass(I'm Catholic) the pastor would say(In Malay/Indonesian): Ingatlah mereka yang telah meninggal dunia dan terimalah mereka di dalam cahaya wajahMu.
This gets translated into(more or less): Remember those who have died and accept them in the light of Your face.(meaning to have them in God's presence)
I'll be damn. It's clear I'm not the only one who 'knew'.
who knows? Knowing and believing are 2 different issues.
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
quite common nowadays.... because we don't have a you-know-what.... 8-)
i know!
Originally posted by sillyme:
i know!
Unker sillyme knows what?
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Unker sillyme knows what?
i know you know what la
Why Virgin Mary is called Virgin Mary? She gave birth right?
Why are there so many different version of testaments? New and old. What to believe?
Is it true catholics in the past used violent ways to condemn those who did not believe in god; by punishing them?
Ever occured to u that the holy bible could be an all-time bestseller like what the modern day J.K.Rowling did with her Harry Potter series? Written just as a fiction?
Whose god is the real deal, if there's any?
I understand Jesus sacrifice himself to save mankind from their sins, he was resurrected and supposedly came back to life. If he did, he will die again, but where is his remains kept since he is so holy?
Why is a Pope needed? Does a Pope has any nationality? Or is he recognised as a worldwide citizen?
If god created god, then who created god? (The chicken and egg qns)
Is Adam and Eve the first creation of god? If so, they are only 2 humans to begin with. But how come now I see so many skin colors?
If christianity is the true religion, what of other religion? If u dont disapprove of other religion, it means u accept other gods existence too.
All of the above is the questions that is looming over my head after I read a few pages of the bible, the bestsellers of the Da Vinci series, the things i heard from people with religion and the general questions I always had when people cant seem to answer me.
u read onli a few pages...pls read on...answers to most of ur qns come in the later parts...when u have finished reading, then u come back n ask qns...
even if i read, i wont understand. Take for example the first page of the bible, its like a epic story or script. Far fatched.
Let there be light, and there is light.
Let there be something something, and there is something.
This is Harry Potter fantasy come true.
Why not u try answer my qns above?
i am not a pastor...some of ur qns require ppl who r trained in theology to ans...anyway, sth for u to ponder on. from personal observation, most who try to become christians thru 1st fully understanding God usually do not succeed. tis may sound laughable to u but most of us christians 1st become christians b4 we understood betta the bible. our understanding came from the guidance of the holy spirit after we accepted christ and also from the regular services we attend...
can humans who onli use 15% of our brain at the most ever fully understand a God who supposedly created everything in tis universe? if one seeks to fully understand Him b4 believing in Him, then one is bound to fail. again, I will not worship and put my trust in a God whom i can fully understand cos then i am trusting in a God who is equal to 15% of my brain...
Ok, u said some questions u cannot answer me.
Then please answer those u could accordingly.
Dont just give simple answers like Yes and No. Provide explanation and more insights. Thank u. I will be waiting.
the reason y its a fantasy to u is cos its HUMANLY impossible for such things to happen. however, u r toking abt God who is not human. u r toking abt God who is everywhere. theres a tremendous diff btw human logic n God logic. unless the Holy Spirit is guiding u, u wun be able to comprehend God logic. again, i am speaking from personal experience cos b4 i was christian, i couldnt comprehend God logic. even now tat i am a christian, i still cannot claim to understand fully God logic...i am still learning n will continue to do so until i see Jesus again...
hai...seems like u have missed my pt compeletely...nvm then...i shall leave ur qns for the rest of the christians if they even wanna ans them...its not tat i dunno the ans. its juz tat i dun see the need to ans them cos even if i can convince u, it wun make u become a christian...tat i am very sure...