Righteousness through faith
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paper credentials or field experience? very different, the former deals with paper work/proposals/policies only, the latter means having to work with real life people.Originally posted by Chin Eng:actually, i am not convinced of his entire credentials at all.....
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DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
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As usual the monkeys are screeching and jumping up and down. Ask the monkeys a simple question like what they understand as Faith in God , they go into a frenzy and start to jump up and down.
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Cut the crap! Do you want me to grill you like what Davinder did to Durai and QC Carman did to GCT?Originally posted by casino_king:God is only interested in Christians or is God interested in mankind? Based on that statement I have to conclude that you think you have Faith in God but you don't. But then you probably read a lot and did lots of bible study to try to understand faith. Unless you have Faith in God, you know nothing.
Just tell us what is your idea of Faith in God. We don't want to hear questions from you. We want answers!
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funny, for a moment I thought you are talking to yourself.Originally posted by casino_king:No you cannot prove love from scientific experiments, you can only ecperience it. You can only experience it when you have a relationship with that person.
God is only interested in Christians or is God interested in mankind? Based on that statement I have to conclude that you think you have Faith in God but you don't. But then you probably read a lot and did lots of bible study to try to understand faith. Unless you have Faith in God, you know nothing.
Do you know God? Do you know what faith is? Do you know the basis where you put this faith of yours on? In fact do you know what you are talking about?
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Is this your way to have conversion? cannot answer other people's questioning, then resort to insults and name calling?Originally posted by casino_king:As usual the monkeys are screeching and jumping up and down. Ask the monkeys a simple question like what they understand as Faith in God , they go into a frenzy and start to jump up and down.
If you don't know the answer then admit it, humble yourself and ask nicely, no need to use insults and name calling method to cover your own ignorance. -
There are no answers, there are only personal experiences. That you people fail to see that and know that is the reason why you are jumping up and down like monkeys.Originally posted by Icemoon:Cut the crap! Do you want me to grill you like what Davinder did to Durai and QC Carman did to GCT?
Just tell us what is your idea of Faith in God. We don't want to hear questions from you. We want answers! -
We shall refer him to the Forum Disciplinary Board!Originally posted by vince69:Is this your way to have conversion? cannot answer other people's questioning, then resort to insults and name calling?
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There is only one GOD and you put your Faith in GOD. What is so difficult about that?Originally posted by vince69:funny, for a moment I thought you are talking to yourself.
Do you know God? Do you know what faith is? Do you know the basis where you put this faith of yours on? In fact do you know what you are talking about?
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so tell us your personal experience.Originally posted by casino_king:There are no answers, there are only personal experiences. That you people fail to see that and know that is the reason why you are jumping up and down like monkeys. -
There is no forum disciplinary board, and there is no use banning him, since he can start a cloneOriginally posted by Icemoon:We shall refer him to the Forum Disciplinary Board! -
There is only one GOD and you put your Faith in GOD.Originally posted by Icemoon:so tell us your personal experience. -
Well said.Originally posted by casino_king:There is only one GOD and you put your Faith in GOD. What is so difficult about that?
Then tell us more about this GOD? -
C_K's logic:Originally posted by casino_king:There are no answers, there are only personal experiences. That you people fail to see that and know that is the reason why you are jumping up and down like monkeys.
C_K don't have the answer, therefore conclude that there cannot exist an answer, reason being C_K don't know there is an answer and C_K is not interested in the answer. -
This is a good example of a monkey jumping up and down.Originally posted by vince69:C_K's logic:
C_K don't have the answer, therefore conclude that there cannot exist an answer, reason being C_K don't know there is an answer and C_K is not interested in the answer. -
you still have not answer me my question, yet you keep claiming about putting Faith in GOD, on what basis is your this Faith based on?Originally posted by casino_king:There is only one GOD and you put your Faith in GOD. -
Fine,Originally posted by casino_king:This is a good example of a monkey jumping up and down.
I shall have no other reasoning, but to conclude that you do not have any answer to the simple question I had been repeatedly put forward to you, leading to the conclusion that everything you demanded/asked/put forward are really without basis and reasoning.
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This is a good example of a sane person having a decent conversation with others.Originally posted by Icemoon:Well said.
Then tell us more about this GOD?
You see you are going back to your old ways. What is GOD? Who is GOD? When is GOD?
Do you believe that there is only one GOD? You do not know GOD by asking people to tell you more about GOD. You experience GOD for yourself in your own life. You need to put your Faith in God. -
Unfortunately God does not give up on people. I personally certainly would.Originally posted by vince69:Fine,
I shall have no other reasoning, but to conclude that you do not have any answer to the simple question I had been repeatedly put forward to you, leading to the conclusion that everything you demanded/asked/put forward are really without basis and reasoning.
hence our conversation is concluded.
There is no "basis of faith." That is intellectual garbage.
You humble yourself and put your Faith in God. -
Thank you. I'm glad I'm not one of your monkeys.Originally posted by casino_king:This is a good example of a sane person having a decent conversation with others.
You see you are going back to your old ways. What is GOD? Who is GOD? When is GOD?
Do you believe that there is only one GOD? You do not know GOD by asking people to tell you more about GOD. You experience GOD for yourself in your own life. You need to put your Faith in God.
Hmm .. how can I experience GOD for myself in my own life leh? -
and again you are showing your inconsistent side. If you say that love cannot be proven from scientific evidence and is only experiential, then why can't God be experiential.... therefore, firstly, you have no right to question anybody for believing in God and you also have no right to ask for scientific evidence. THIS POINT CAN OFFICIALLY BE PUT TO REST IMMEDIATELY!Originally posted by casino_king:No you cannot prove love from scientific experiments, you can only experience it. You can only experience it when you have a relationship with that person.
There is no way you can conclude on what kind of faith I have in God, and whatever you think you have concluded is totally irrelevant to me. And guess what.... wrong again, I do not participate in lots of Bible study. In fact I have not been in a Bible study for years. My faith in God rest on what I have found reading secular materials, cross-referencing with what I know from reading the Bible on my own (which is not Bible study in itself)..... In fact, I absolute dislike the close-mindedness of a BS group.Originally posted by casino_king:God is only interested in Christians or is God interested in mankind? Based on that statement I have to conclude that you think you have Faith in God but you don't. You probably read a lot and did lots of bible study to try to understand faith. Unless you have Faith in God, you know nothing.
.... so you think you know a lot about me.... that's a laugh! -
So what's the point of this conversation anyway, since you are unwilling to share about your experience with God? Your god.Originally posted by casino_king:This is a good example of a sane person having a decent conversation with others.
You see you are going back to your old ways. What is GOD? Who is GOD? When is GOD?
Do you believe that there is only one GOD? You do not know GOD by asking people to tell you more about GOD. You experience GOD for yourself in your own life. You need to put your Faith in God.
If others are having such a conversation, what is god, who is god, when is god, and you refuse to participate other than to attempt to insult and ridicule, you should not even listen in. In doing so, you are butting into a crowd that you do not accept, listening to a conversation you do not agree in, hurling insults to those who do not deserve them. -
Put your Faith in GOD. Do not come to God with any preconditions and any assumptions. Forget all that you had been taught about God and all that you have learnt about God. You must have complete Faith in God and God alone.Originally posted by Icemoon:Thank you. I'm glad I'm not one of your monkeys.
Hmm .. how can I experience GOD for myself in my own life leh? -
.... from the gospel of casino_king chapter 2 verse 6.... amen!Originally posted by casino_king:Put your Faith in GOD. Do not come to God with any preconditions and any assumptions. Forget all that you had been taught about God and all that you have learnt about God. You must have complete Faith in God and God alone. -
So is this god an entity? Like a tree or rock or a spirit?Originally posted by casino_king:Put your Faith in GOD. Do not come to God with any preconditions and any assumptions. Forget all that you had been taught about God and all that you have learnt about God. You must have complete Faith in God and God alone.