Capacity changes on bus services (Part 2)
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
For 859, u can tell the people in Yishun who see high loadings from Sembawang to Yishun dailyNot sure I agree when there is a HC bendy/DD on 856 every 06-07 mins during peak hours doing the same route as 859.
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Anyway, I am going down to take 859 later so any updates I inform you all
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Not sure I agree when there is a HC bendy/DD on 856 every 06-07 mins during peak hours doing the same route as 859.
But 856 only travel Canberra Road area. 859 enters 962 area a bit at Sembawang Cres, Admiralty Link which 856 doesnt plies -
Originally posted by TIB 585L:
But 856 only travel Canberra Road area. 859 enters 962 area a bit at Sembawang Cres, Admiralty Link which 856 doesnt pliesTrue.. that's why you have 859, otherwise there was no need for it. All I am saying is as of today, 859 doesn't need bendies/DDs and is doing well. The highest loading part for 859 is within Sembawang town itself where you have 859A/B.
962 is the one that needs to kick out A22s and get the bendies back.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
True.. that's why you have 859, otherwise there was no need for it. All I am saying is as of today, 859 doesn't need bendies/DDs and is doing well. The highest loading part for 859 is within Sembawang town itself where you have 859A/B.
962 is the one that needs to kick out A22s and get the bendies back.
True. 859 freq is still okay outside yishun. only see the bus crowded from chong pang/SSC then the crowd dies down inside sembawang. SD still can tank ah, never ever see 859 pax got left out -
Originally posted by SMB1368T:
Anyway, I am going down to take 859 later so any updates I inform you all
You should do weekday AM/PM - that will give you the best picture. Also when you do the loading analysis, do note the bus in front and back.
Sometimes it is possible, one bus is late and loading is high, and there is a bus right behind. This does not give true picture so has to be taken into consideration.
Like there was a time I saw 61 pax board sv 324 at HCI and then realized the bus was 06 mins late and in 04 mins there was another 324 that took only 23 pax. It surprised me that for such a short feeder also there could be 06 min delay.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Go observe the loading my friend. It is strictly SD loading even if it goes to inner parts of Sembawang. 856 is the preferred choice and there is 859A/B to supplement on its high loading sector.
Maybe after Sembawang Crescent flats develop, there maybe a need, but the call to upgrade should be taken when it is needed and not waste resource.
962 is the one that has been poorly treated like 851 with constantly downgrading bendies and in turn having to implement 962B/C
Agreed,859 got 11 buses running fine and loop at Yishun.There is also 859A/B to supplement the Sembawang sectors.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Go observe the loading my friend. It is strictly SD loading even if it goes to inner parts of Sembawang. 856 is the preferred choice and there is 859A/B to supplement on its high loading sector.
Maybe after Sembawang Crescent flats develop, there maybe a need, but the call to upgrade should be taken when it is needed and not waste resource.
962 is the one that has been poorly treated like 851 with constantly downgrading bendies and in turn having to implement 962B/C
Agreed,859 got 11 buses running fine and loop at Yishun.There is also 859A/B to supplement the Sembawang sectors.
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SMRT has too many excess rigids. Seriously they should just return all those 'SBSMRTransit' Citaros to storage.
969 has 9 of them (minus the 2 extra SDs). SMRT should just cut 5 rigids/SDs on 854, and use them to replace the Citaros on 969. For the other 4 Citaros, just upgrade them to DD.
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
SMRT has too many excess rigids. Seriously they should just return all those 'SBSMRTransit' Citaros to storage.
Agree. Some Shitaros, Orh Cee's and A22's can be sold to other countries like Thailand to bolster their aging fleets.
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
Agree. Some Shitaros, Orh Cee's and A22's can be sold to other countries like Thailand to bolster their aging fleets.
Removing 21 Citaros (and TIB832Z) from service should not affect SMRT much, since they already have an excess of A22s and bendies.
And I hope those 21 Citaros will go to the future Seletar operator as training fleet, and there will not be any more Citaro purchases.
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SMRT has quite a lot of A22s that have not entered service yet. Those can replace the Citaros as well, although they are lesser in number than the Citaros.
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You forget that Yishun 850E,851,852,860,feeders and Intratowns is in the BCM and all of those svc have majority SDs.Those DAFs,O405s will be gone this year.So sell those ageing OCs,A22s and Shit Taros solved all the problems?
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You forget that Yishun 850E,851,852,860,feeders and Intratowns is in the BCM and all of those svc have majority SDs.Those DAFs,O405s will be gone this year.So sell those ageing OCs,A22s and Shit Taros solved all the problems?Furthermore SBST also have non WAB SDs to be retired also,So LTA fork out $$$$$$$$ again buy new SDs again?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
You forget that Yishun 850E,851,852,860,feeders and Intratowns is in the BCM and all of those svc have majority SDs.Those DAFs,O405s will be gone this year.So sell those ageing OCs,A22s and Shit Taros solved all the problems?Furthermore SBST also have non WAB SDs to be retired also,So LTA fork out $$$$$$$$ again buy new SDs again?
Not sell ALL la. At least not to the point of having to spam SD's on so many services. There also arent a lot of SB220's, O405's left (less than 50), I am sure the new Shitaro's and A22's outnumber the outgoing NWAB SD's.
Reduce SD but increase DD. Everyone happy
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
Not sell ALL la. At least not to the point of having to spam SD's on so many services. There also arent a lot of SB220's, O405's left (less than 50), I am sure the new Shitaro's and A22's outnumber the outgoing NWAB SD's.
Reduce SD but increase DD. Everyone happy
But GA still shortage of SDs..
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
But GA still shortage of SDs..
Can give GA then. The 21 SG Shitaros shud go to GA in exchange for some new LTA B9TL's.
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Those KUBs in future can sell to Philippines also. Now they got WAB bus liao
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Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
Those KUBs in future can sell to Philippines also. Now they got WAB bus liao
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
But GA still shortage of SDs..
Then use DDs on 3. If also got shortage of DDs then cry to LTA lor...
Still have 48 Wrights TBR in Batch 4. GA maybe can get 5, then the rest split between SBST (replace VO3X) and storage for future Seletar operator.
Next time no need mass redeployments already. All under LTA anyway. Just swap out the bendies for DDs.
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
Can give GA then. The 21 SG Shitaros shud go to GA in exchange for some new LTA B9TL's.
Then Seletar training fleet use what? The 15 Batch 4 A22s are definitely not enough for a big package like Seletar.
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
Then Seletar training fleet use what? The 15 Batch 4 A22s are definitely not enough for a big package like Seletar.
Im sure more Shitaros and A22's are on the way. Plus some SMRT A22's will also have to transfer over to Seletar by then, like the E500, Shitaros and A22's transferred to TT.
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
Then Seletar training fleet use what? The 15 Batch 4 A22s are definitely not enough for a big package like Seletar.
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
Then use DDs on 3. If also got shortage of DDs then cry to LTA lor...
Still have 48 Wrights TBR in Batch 4. GA maybe can get 5, then the rest split between SBST (replace VO3X) and storage for future Seletar operator.
Next time no need mass redeployments already. All under LTA anyway. Just swap out the bendies for DDs.
Now any capacity upgrade have to wait for LTA approval not just hantam put DDs or what.That day I hijacked DD instead of SD also upper deck got 6-7 pax leh..