SMRT trials MAN double-decker bus
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
883 is required but not so soon. Expect to see empty or near-empty buses for the next 1 year. Just like 46.
Maybe some pax will chose 883 over 117 who knows?Many pax got the mindset that SMRT is always faster than SBST.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Maybe some pax will chose 883 over 117 who knows?Many pax got the mindset that SMRT is always faster than SBST.
It will really depend on which service comes first - 117, 169 or 883.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
883 is required but not so soon. Expect to see empty or near-empty buses for the next 1 year. Just like 46.
Given the current route, I don't think it's worth coming out another svc that heavily duplicates 117.
Could have just make changes to 117, since it's already facing low demands daily. And keep "883" till most BTOs are up. Then, the future 883 shouldn't be following the current route.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Sshhh becareful,Who knows its the same 76 planner..
Ohh the guy who went on the newspaper? Who cares...his idea for 76 to terminate at Eunos was a stupid one...
FYI, making bus transfer may seems faster, BUT not always. Unless you make both svces having the same arrival timing, having the extra time to wait for passengers to make transfer blah blah, there's always prone to make your journey longer.
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
Ohh the guy who went on the newspaper? Who cares...his idea for 76 to terminate at Eunos was a stupid one...
FYI, making bus transfer may seems faster, BUT not always. Unless you make both svces having the same arrival timing, having the extra time to wait for passengers to make transfer blah blah, there's always prone to make your journey longer.
If he plan 70 to cut short at Eunos i still welcomed it given 70 routes but 76?Ok what is past is past.17 also whose idea to terminate at Bedok?Its consider a loop svc also not much difference..Rest time only 6-10 mins,Most of the 17 buses always arrive 3-5 mins late anyway..17 should give to SBST back since the bus passby their depot.GA can take 109 as compensation.But again who are we?We are just a small fry.
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
Given the current route, I don't think it's worth coming out another svc that heavily duplicates 117.
Could have just make changes to 117, since it's already facing low demands daily. And keep "883" till most BTOs are up. Then, the future 883 shouldn't be following the current route.
That was my proposal if you go through my posts on suggestions from last 2 months. I think LTA under pressure since haven't introduced new route since the last stupid route 46 they introduced with empty DDs.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
If he plan 70 to cut short at Eunos i still welcomed it given 70 routes but 76?Ok what is past is past.17 also whose idea to terminate at Bedok?Its consider a loop svc also not much difference..Rest time only 6-10 mins,Most of the 17 buses always arrive 3-5 mins late anyway..17 should give to SBST back since the bus passby their depot.GA can take 109 as compensation.But again who are we?We are just a small fry.
There is no reason for 70 to be cut as it has two terminal end points Shenton Way and YCK. 76 was cut because of its long looping point. It could have still terminated at Eunos but via Still Road instead of launching stupid 150 and 134 to make up for it.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
There is no reason for 70 to be cut as it has two terminal end points Shenton Way and YCK. 76 was cut because of its long looping point. It could have still terminated at Eunos but via Still Road instead of launching stupid 150 and 134 to make up for it.
76 is still okay in my opinion.LTA should built a new roadside Siglap terminal for 76,135 & 155.36,62 & 518 is the one need a T2 terminal.LTA very funny leh,Shorter runtime but more rest time,Longer runtime but less break time.518 got only 9-16 mins rest time at PSR after the added runtime..What do they expect?In UK for a 12km bus service,drivers are given an average of 13-22 mins break!No wonder BCs resignation is still high.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
That was my proposal if you go through my posts on suggestions from last 2 months. I think LTA under pressure since haven't introduced new route since the last stupid route 46 they introduced with empty DDs.
You mean the proposal for 117?
Too much pressure until they duplicate 117...well done~ #WasteMoney
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
If he plan 70 to cut short at Eunos i still welcomed it given 70 routes but 76?Ok what is past is past.17 also whose idea to terminate at Bedok?Its consider a loop svc also not much difference..Rest time only 6-10 mins,Most of the 17 buses always arrive 3-5 mins late anyway..17 should give to SBST back since the bus passby their depot.GA can take 109 as compensation.But again who are we?We are just a small fry.
Just complain to make them suffer..afterall, they are highly paid to get suffer~
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
If he plan 70 to cut short at Eunos i still welcomed it given 70 routes but 76?Ok what is past is past.17 also whose idea to terminate at Bedok?Its consider a loop svc also not much difference..Rest time only 6-10 mins,Most of the 17 buses always arrive 3-5 mins late anyway..17 should give to SBST back since the bus passby their depot.GA can take 109 as compensation.But again who are we?We are just a small fry.
Routes 17 and 73 were facing a very similar scenario (Station A looping at Station B). When it came to contract allocation, they faced opposing fates. Route 17, being in PSR route group, went under Loyang, which is rather understandable. Route 73, being in AMK route group, went to Bishan instead of Seletar. Will we be seeing it originate from TPY?
Also, Clementi contract includes 174, which passes nowhere near the suburb. The way in which the remaining contracts were split between the incumbents also left Routes 61 and 117 as orphan routes.
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Originally posted by iveco:
Routes 17 and 73 were facing a very similar scenario (Station A looping at Station B). When it came to contract allocation, they faced opposing fates. Route 17, being in PSR route group, went under Loyang, which is rather understandable. Route 73, being in AMK route group, went to Bishan instead of Seletar. Will we be seeing it originate from TPY?
Also, Clementi contract includes 174, which passes nowhere near the suburb. The way in which the remaining contracts were split between the incumbents also left Routes 61 and 117 as orphan routes.
61 should be under Eunos or given to TT,117 should be given to GA..SBST can take back 136.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
61 should be under Eunos or given to TT,117 should be given to GA..SBST can take back 136.
Prefer give 61 to SBST and 117 to SMRT. 117 can renumber to 887 if operated by SMRT. -
Originally posted by carbikebus:
61 should be under Eunos or given to TT,117 should be given to GA..SBST can take back 136.
LTA should build a Sengkang bus depot for services in Sengkang and Punggol.
Take over all Sengkang services (including 965, which will be converted to bi directional), and Punggol services (excluding 3, 118, 136).
117 will go to Sembawang package, 136 to Seletar, 3 and 118 remain in Loyang.
Loyang will take Tampines.
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Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
Prefer give 61 to SBST and 117 to SMRT. 117 can renumber to 887 if operated by SMRT.I totally second that. But we are going way off topic here though.
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Let's us see if the remaining new A95s will be spread even..Heard so many rumours..
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Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
Prefer give 61 to SBST and 117 to SMRT. 117 can renumber to 887 if operated by SMRT.The objective is not to have all service under 1 company in the Interchange..That's why LTA purposely didn't want GA to take 117..Only 50 left with SBST..Anyway i think Punggol is just temporary..Who knows what will happen once Tampines North,Woodleigh,Buangkok,Tengah and Marina South ITHs ready.
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According to Sgwiki ( quite reliable source) SMB 5888 H has changed to a new owner - AMDEP and several other SMB registered A95 has change ownership from Kranji to Ang mo kio . Expect to see some SMB registered A95 on 857 and 854 down the road .
Now I wonder what is kranji depot getting if they give their A95 DD away ? B9tl ? Enviro ?
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Originally posted by Formususeonly:
According to Sgwiki ( quite reliable source) SMB 5888 H has changed to a new owner - AMDEP and several other SMB registered A95 has change ownership from Kranji to Ang mo kio . Expect to see some SMB registered A95 on 857 and 854 down the road .
Now I wonder what is kranji depot getting if they give their A95 DD away ? B9tl ? Enviro ?
They're obsessed with B9TLs now,Even Enviros also transferred to Lybp
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Reduce the diff type of bus a bus depot have to maintain? Btw i think Redeployments thread is more appropriate for ur topic? Just accept that no one wanna talk about MAN DD..Originally posted by Formususeonly:According to Sgwiki ( quite reliable source) SMB 5888 H has changed to a new owner - AMDEP and several other SMB registered A95 has change ownership from Kranji to Ang mo kio . Expect to see some SMB registered A95 on 857 and 854 down the road .
Now I wonder what is kranji depot getting if they give their A95 DD away ? B9tl ? Enviro ?
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Originally posted by SMB3163D:
Reduce the diff type of bus a bus depot have to maintain? Btw i think Redeployments thread is more appropriate for ur topic? Just accept that no one wanna talk about MAN DD..
Is not because no one ones to talk about man DD is because all the man dd are in Singapore and working . However when the next batch of man DD - coming Jan 2017 the forum will rise again and start to talk about the man DD and which operator will get it and etc .
From what I have observed for the last few weeks , as I commute to and fro work at yishun - I need to take 854 . I observed that 854 will get up to 6 MAN A95 + 1 Enviro for weekdays while on weekends the no. Comes down to just 3 A95 . This looks good for 854 but they still have at least 10 bendy in the fleet . Like half is WAB the other half is non-WAB .
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After Seletar Package buses transition,Then we know where those extra A95s will go.
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It's October...5999Z isn't on the road yet
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
After Seletar Package buses transition,Then we know where those extra A95s will go.
If 5th Co wins Seletar contract, they can have the remaining BSEP ADLs. Their slots can be filled by A95s.
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Good News ! The next Batch of MAN A95 is here already but is unregistered . Saw it inside ST Kinetic HQ @ Boon Lay . There are a total of 5 Units I saw today (20-11-2016) . There is actually nothing major about 2 of the units but the remaining 3 Units has something new not found on any A95 . And yes I wonder around STK for 3 Hours to confirm the buses inside it if u ask .
MAN A95 - 2 Units are lush green normal body work by Gemilang .
MAN A95 - 3 Units are in lush green BUT with seats with headrest ( same as SG5999Z ) and the body work is the same as the MAN DD L ( SG 5999 Z ) with the same BIG-ASS Light ) BUT is not 12.8M . It is still 12 metre Long . USB-charging port is also inside . NO weird 3 door concept .
To sum up 3 out of the 5 Units @ STK are based on the MAN A95 DD L 12.8m (SG 5999 Z) but is just 12 Metres long with Headrest seats . BTW the seats are the same as the one found in SG 5999 Z . The remaining 2 Units are normal A95 in lush green .