SMRT trials MAN double-decker bus
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
Can simply intro some service to cover those "feeder" part of 190 and 972 during off peak. Like a 190A or 972B. Then spam them with SD's
That will waste even more resources, those resources that could potentially be used to help residents in Sembawang or Yishun get better links by having new services or better frequencies by having fleet additions.
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Maybe for a start 167 & 980 should add 2 more buses?
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Originally posted by SBS351M:
That will waste even more resources, those resources that could potentially be used to help residents in Sembawang or Yishun get better links by having new services or better frequencies by having fleet additions.
Just use the split shift SDs from 307.
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
Just use the split shift SDs from 307.
Agreed. It wont be waste of resources. It will be efficient utilisation, and those DD's taken out from 190 and 972 can be used on 167 and 980 :)
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
Agreed. It wont be waste of resources. It will be efficient utilisation, and those DD's taken out from 190 and 972 can be used on 167 and 980 :)
190 and 972 please don't touch,The service paxs loadings in a day can cover the bus fuel & BC salary for 2-3 days.
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
Agreed. It wont be waste of resources. It will be efficient utilisation, and those DD's taken out from 190 and 972 can be used on 167 and 980 :)
Then how about 190 and 972 during peak if those buses go to 167 and 980? And I assume you will want the current 16-17 min PM peak frequency for 980 just because you think "bigger is better"?
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Saw a MAN DD with SMRT livery on 851 for the very first time today. Didn't manage to get the rego though.
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Originally posted by Marvel68:
Saw a MAN DD with SMRT livery on 851 for the very first time today. Didn't manage to get the rego though.
Today got a total of 5 A95s on S851.
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
Agreed. It wont be waste of resources. It will be efficient utilisation, and those DD's taken out from 190 and 972 can be used on 167 and 980 :)
Oops, I forgot that 972 doesn't terminate at CCK.
Use SDs from 920 and 922 then.
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
Oops, I forgot that 972 doesn't terminate at CCK.
Use SDs from 920 and 922 then.
Not enough SDs can always kope some Citaros from Amdep mah,Wldep last time complain not enough SDs but when Amdep want to transfer them Citaros they rejected,Why?Not enough power as the A22s?Don't tell me Wldep no adblue tank or any kind of bullshit,Then those Wldep E500s top up adblue at where?SPC station?Fyi adblue doesnt require to top up everyday,Unless its less than half..
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Nowadays SMRT schedule also got add timings until certain routes they goyang like mad.
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
Oops, I forgot that 972 doesn't terminate at CCK.
Use SDs from 920 and 922 then.
U want to pull buses from svc with only 9 - 11 min frequency in peak hour?
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Originally posted by SMB3163D:
U want to pull buses from svc with only 9 - 11 min frequency in peak hour?
Forget about him,Too naive to know bus operations.
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I don't really care much about BPJ, as there is no interchange there.
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
I don't really care much about BPJ, as there is no interchange there.
You Dont care but you suggested to take BPJ feeder fleets,What do you mean by that?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
You Dont care but you suggested to take BPJ feeder fleets,What do you mean by that?
I didn't really bother to find out much about BPJ services.
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
I don't really care much about BPJ, as there is no interchange there.
I don't care about svc 43/M can? -
Originally posted by carbikebus:
Today 5752T and one pixel livery A95 come out from Lydep at 0535hrs,One is perm S shift 854 BC and another is standby BC which also assigned to do svc 854 today.
So far managed to spot 3 A95s on 854 (5743M 5783D 5791E) as well as 3 other old bendies. Plenty of A22s on 854 today.
Not sure if 5752T did 854 today though.
I am just hoping that the number of DDs on 854 still maintain as 5-6 on weekdays now that 851 started DD too.
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
So far managed to spot 3 A95s on 854 (5743M 5783D 5791E) as well as 3 other old bendies. Plenty of A22s on 854 today.
Not sure if 5752T did 854 today though.
I am just hoping that the number of DDs on 854 still maintain as 5-6 on weekdays now that 851 started DD too.
So far AMDEP and LYDEP got 35 A95s and 9 E500s so total 45 DDs.
My preferences will be
S61:2 A95s
S67:7 A95s
S167:2 A95s
S851:7 A95s
S854:7 A95s and 2 E500s
S857:4 E500s and 2 A95s
S969:8 A95s and 2 E500s.
S980:2 A95s
S985:2 A95s
So still 6 spare A95s and 1 spare E500s.Amdep 2 spare A95s and 1 E500.
Lydep 4 spare A95s.
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Originally posted by SBS351M:
167 and 980 don't need DDs, just because they go to the city doesn't mean they have high loadings all the time that justifies a full DD shift. This is the reason why bendies are only deployed on 980 on Sundays.
From what I observe, 167 and 980 runs almost parallel from Novena all the way to Sembawang. Hence these 2 so called shares their loadings which led to both not getting any high capacity buses in the end.
Somehow I remembered 980 ever had a perm AP bendy before that runs on weekdays as well, that was back in 2002. That bendy was then removed out from 980 and replaced by a Lance.
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
From what I observe, 167 and 980 runs almost parallel from Novena all the way to Sembawang. Hence these 2 so called shares their loadings which led to both not getting any high capacity buses in the end.
Somehow I remembered 980 ever had a perm AP bendy before that runs on weekdays as well, that was back in 2002. That bendy was then removed out from 980 and replaced by a Lance.
Sembawang Road/Canberra Road/Sembawang Avenue and Thomson Road/Moulmein Road/Newton Road junctions. neither 167 nor 980 has good frequency. 980 had been spammed with OCs while 167 had majority A22s. at a point of time, 980 had split bendies drawn from AMDEP (SMRT).
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The part which has high loading is frm Thomson to Novena in the morning. After that back to normal. Perhaps downroutes would do the trick
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
From what I observe, 167 and 980 runs almost parallel from Novena all the way to Sembawang. Hence these 2 so called shares their loadings which led to both not getting any high capacity buses in the end.
Somehow I remembered 980 ever had a perm AP bendy before that runs on weekdays as well, that was back in 2002. That bendy was then removed out from 980 and replaced by a Lance.
True but you also need to note both 167 and 980 don't have great frequency. Their frequency is between 10-15 mins. Moreover if you observe along Sembawang Rd and Upper Thomson until you hit AMK side, there is only 167, 169, 980. There is no real luxury of many services.
Most pax who board along Sembawang Rd start alighting only around Thomson CC, Thomson Road and Novena. This part usually finds packed buses in AM. Hence, would be good to start with 2 DDs but need to time them appropriately.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
True but you also need to note both 167 and 980 don't have great frequency. Their frequency is between 10-15 mins. Moreover if you observe along Sembawang Rd and Upper Thomson until you hit AMK side, there is only 167, 169, 980. There is no real luxury of many services.
Most pax who board along Sembawang Rd start alighting only around Thomson CC, Thomson Road and Novena. This part usually finds packed buses in AM. Hence, would be good to start with 2 DDs but need to time them appropriately.
they should have just improve the frequency for both 167/980... or add 2-3 bendies each... frankly speaking, both svcs does not need DDs.167 duplicate 162 all the way from upper thomson to Shenton way... 980 also got 166 follow all the way to Middle road....
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Can wait for TEL and see how first.