Been Bullied, Hate School Support Group
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That is the very reason why we need more teachers who are flexible, patient, understanding and supportive of their students, and this is the change that Miyuki miingguii is contending for. :) This is worth keeping in mind.
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Originally posted by Ace_Serena:
Haha.
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apologise to Nelstar. I’m not just referring to physical evidences
of bully victims (note: miyuki miinggui is not just up against
bullying, she spearheaded this support group with other concerns as
well), but also scientifically proven statistics and evidences of
the psychological impacts that her various concerns have on school
students.I believe there is a school counselor for that purpose and your own parents for that purpose.
If your parents can't stand for you and trust you.... well, it is about time to speak to another relative who can stand in.
In a court, a minor must be represented by a matured person who can fully represent their interests.
Of course, depends on how you intend to go about doing it your way, the fundamentals are structured in this method.
It is not wrong to form a group to voice your opinions. Neither is it wrong. Rather it is how she can represent the interests of everyone best. -
Originally posted by Nelstar:
I believe there is a school counselor for that purpose and your own parents for that purpose.
If your parents can't stand for you and trust you.... well, it is about time to speak to another relative who can stand in.
In a court, a minor must be represented by a matured person who can fully represent their interests.
Of course, depends on how you intend to go about doing it your way, the fundamentals are structured in this method.
It is not wrong to form a group to voice your opinions. Neither is it wrong. Rather it is how she can represent the interests of everyone best.
That I have to agree. :) -
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Originally posted by Miyuki miingguii:
U know my school counselors are totally... Urgh... When I went for counseling once, he said to me n my friends "the three of u gang up together n b bad together. Ur mindset is very bad.". As for another counselor, when I told her me n my friends hear voices in our head, she dismissed it as our imagination.
Btw. I asked my teacher indirectly whether doing this will get expelled. He said might get expelled.
Then I believe your parents can also help. Unless their opinion is the same as the counselor.
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Originally posted by Nelstar:
Then I believe your parents can also help. Unless their opinion is the same as the counselor.
Yes, it is true that of all the concerns about changes in our education system, none gets our attention so quickly as that of a child's well-being. It is important to build a tripartite relationship, that is, between your family, your school and yourself, since you said that you want to achieve your aim using peaceful measures, having good communication will be the key to revolution? :) -
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Well, I enjoyed my schooling days in my alma maters and had no problem with my teachers or whatsoever, so I'm not in any position to assist you in this matter. The reason that I support your quest is that I trust your judgement and I admire that you're not another strawberry youth. :) However, I'm not encouraging any obnoxious behaviour here. I believe that you will be receptive in accepting guidance and advice from your seniors.
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Originally posted by Miyuki miingguii:
Thank u for the nice words! Honestly, the reason y I think I dare is because I'm too suicidal and depressed to bother about consequences anymore. even if my sch expel me, I doubt I'll feel a thing. I'm not sure what's obnoxious but I hope that doesn't describe me. I do not respect any teachers or people of higher authority than me IF they do not deserve my respect. Like the teachers who ignored or encouraged bullying.
Please stay strong! It's wrong to commit sucide or even to have suicidal thoughts. :) At least you're on the right track now. -
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Originally posted by Ace_Serena:
Please stay strong! It's wrong to commit sucide or even to have suicidal thoughts. :) At least you're on the right track now.It's not wrong to have sucidal thoughts or commit sucide. Those behind pushing the person to the edge is wrong.
Seriously, if a person is sucidal it means a lot of bad things had happen to him/her and that person just can't take it anymore. That person is desprate the escape, and death was the person's only option
Fuck this cruel world. Stay strong, TS.
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Originally posted by Miyuki miingguii:
Yes.. This cruel world... I shall edit out the suicide parts once I get my hands on a computer. I have enough talks with teachers and counselors. The last thing I need is more stupid talks that don't even work.
why?
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Originally posted by Miyuki miingguii:
From what I see, is students being bullied and yet the teachers ignore. Some teachers even join in the fun.
If want evidences.. I only have eye witnesses as evidence.
U want to kill ur self over some A-hole bullying teacher ?
U know these kind of people r everywhere, just because they r in a respectable job, does not mean they r automatically deserving of respect.
I think u expect teachers to be saints. Well, they r not. It's just a job, helps pay their bills.
I know of people who r teachers, some r nice, not all r intelligent, few r indeed arse holes... Some actually cares about their students, some don't . That's the reality.
Teachers can try to teach, but if the students don't want to learn, there's nothing teachers can do.
Again, teachers r just normal human being, they r not saints. Some bad ones will behave badly when they think no one is looking. They abuse their positional power.
Some will ruin a child life, that's why u need to speak up. If u see teacher bullying another student , collect evidence to expose bad behavior. that's the right thing to do.
U r strong, n u can help others. That's what u r here for.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
U want to kill ur self over some A-hole bullying teacher ?
U know these kind of people r everywhere, just because they r in a respectable job, does not mean they r automatically deserving of respect.
I think u expect teachers to be saints. Well, they r not. It's just a job, helps pay their bills.
I know of people who r teachers, some r nice, not all r intelligent, few r indeed arse holes... Some actually cares about their students, some don't . That's the reality.
Teachers can try to teach, but if the students don't want to learn, there's nothing teachers can do.
Again, teachers r just normal human being, they r not saints. Some bad ones will behave badly when they think no one is looking. They abuse their positional power.
Some will ruin a child life, that's why u need to speak up. If u see teacher bullying another student , collect evidence to expose bad behavior. that's the right thing to do.
U r strong, n u can help others. That's what u r here for.
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I am not a student anymore and I can only say, there are other help channels available with professional counselors like SOS. Neither are we capable of helping you if you cannot explain the bullying situation.
You can also call these help number.
I try to list the numbers. Give me a bit of time.
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You can try contacting one of the professional counselors from the helpline below:
http://www.ncss.gov.sg/documents/LIST%20OF%20HELPLINES.pdf -
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Originally posted by Miyuki miingguii:
Teachers used to b such a great role. Wadeva happened to that? The thing I'm angry about is if the teachers have bothered to help me earlier, I wouldn't b like this now. And I'm aware theres so many others out there in the same situation. If I let this continue, it'll get worst. Imagine students who developed depression or mental illness because of many factors, and yet teachers dun care. Last year, I somehow started having most of the symptoms of psychosis and I wrote a bunch of delusional stuff for my English essay and wrote all about being more superior than humans. Ha, the teacher dun care. Although now the psychosis symptoms r gone n I can think a bit straight.
No, no more counselors !!!! They'll ask stupid questions n probably send me to mental hospital.
Long ago, schools were started by missionaries,volunteers, nuns n priests teach.
Nowadays, schools r just institutions, churning out educated work force to fill heirachies. Exams, tests r meant to identify n segregate the elite students n average students.
Elites fill the top pyramid, average forms bulk of the lower rungs hierarchy.
My guess is u r feeling trapped, hence ur psychosis/delusion as a form of escape.
Students hav no alternative, other than school. So it's easy to fall into depression n hopelessness when school life rnt working out. Worst when parents don't know what to do for their kids.
Its tough being a teenager, true, but life goes on.
Teachers don't need to care , why should they ? What u decide to do with your life does not affect them. They don't live their life through u.
If u do well, they don't get a n extra leg. If u fail, too bad for u.
Sure, life sucks at school, well u won't be in there forever. An education is what u need to get yourself out of a meaningless existence.
Focus on getting that education. Teachers r just facilitators, they don't decide your life, u do.
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Originally posted by Miyuki miingguii:
Yes.. This cruel world... I shall edit out the suicide parts once I get my hands on a computer. I have enough talks with teachers and counselors. The last thing I need is more stupid talks that don't even work.
Gotta know how to channel the anger the rage the frustration into positive energies that will push you to succeed.
You are young. Time is on your side. At the moment you are insignificant. You words bear little or no weight. You have nothing to show and nothing to prove yet. Killing yourself may raise SOME awareness, but life goes on and you will just become a number.. a statistic in teen suicide.
You have to understand that to challenge the system, you have to beat the system in it's own rules first. E.g get your qualifications and subsequently become a professional or academic, THEN its time to serve them a hard cold plate pay back.
You have to have a goal and a plan to reach that goal. And NEVER forget. Now make a list.. put down some names. And start working towards your goal.
Patience and timing is key. By the time you decide to challenge the system or the person, you would have already been preparing all those years for that moment, and nothing will stop you. Unless you are dead of course.
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Originally posted by Miyuki miingguii:
Teachers used to b such a great role. Wadeva happened to that? The thing I'm angry about is if the teachers have bothered to help me earlier, I wouldn't b like this now. And I'm aware theres so many others out there in the same situation. If I let this continue, it'll get worst. Imagine students who developed depression or mental illness because of many factors, and yet teachers dun care. Last year, I somehow started having most of the symptoms of psychosis and I wrote a bunch of delusional stuff for my English essay and wrote all about being more superior than humans. Ha, the teacher dun care. Although now the psychosis symptoms r gone n I can think a bit straight.
No, no more counselors !!!! They'll ask stupid questions n probably send me to mental hospital.
Maybe you should ask for a transfer to another school.
Teachers are not Gods, you know. They are humanbeing therefore they got their own imperfections too. Don't place so much expectations on them. You need to find the strength in yourself. Or if you need a friend who never fails you, you can find me. I stand up against bullies for you.
Don't feel depress. Don't think about suicide. If you need a hug, if you need a friend or a boyfriend, I will always be there for you. Hehehe.
If you feel bullied, do PM me, I will come out and whack that teacher.
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What is wrong with singaporean education system? THis is not the first time I encounter students with suicidal thoughts. So stressful.
Even working in singapore is crazy. Low pay, bossy bosses and bullying co-workers.
Thank god I didn't migrate to singapore like the rest of my fellow countrymen power rangers.
Miyuki - I am looking for a mail order bride, I have kind of crush on japanese girls, if yu interested to hook up and run away to the easy life of my country, do PM me. My country is well known for its laid back style.