Is He Breaking The Law?
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Well the bar association by all means, can at times be the biggest liar of all time. Unless you are talking abt different bar, I am also a member of Singapore Bar and lounge Association, 2nd floor, Teochew Building, High street
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Originally posted by mancha:
"what is tua sian tau?? "
Great Bluffing Chief.
" they can bring up the mood and good to be around to laugh at... "
...laugh with, lah
I am not with them, how to laugh with, I serve only, see this tau pow talk with his friend, i laugh at lor -
They are a self-regulating body.. what u expect !ho ho ho...
Cool! I am also a member of the Alchohol Association ler. Elite member ler. Mine is 8th Floor, Foo Chow Buildig, Stoner Street.
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ts, who is he to you that you are so concern with?
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
They are a self-regulating body.. what u expect !ho ho ho...
Cool! I am also a member of the Alchohol Association ler. Elite member ler. Mine is 8th Floor, Foo Chow Buildig, Stoner Street.
oh, really, I like to eat foo chow fishball noodle, jalan besar food court -
Originally posted by angel7030:
oh, really, I like to eat foo chow fishball noodle, jalan besar food courtTry the Foo Chow 炒�湿。 LoL.
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Your close friend is suffering from inferiority complex because he had an unhappy childhood. He did not commit any offence because no one or organisation has suffered any loss as a result of his lies. What would you do to help him?
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Thank you for your responses.
He was a good friend of mine. And he's getting from bad to worse.
He may not break any law YET.
And his lies only make him more bitter to his friends as well.He doesnt want to listen to me. Instead, he thinks I am pest.
And the think is, I've chatted with some of his friends and mutual friends that he lied to, and ALL of them knew or at least has doubts of his stories. Those who were close asked me to help him get help. Others just laugh behind his back. He's really making a fool of himself.
I dont know how to help someone who doesnt want any help. I was hoping the law could at least mend his ways.
He's still in his early 20s. Instead of lying to ppl, I would prefer that he chase after his dreams than living a lie. Then what happens after 10 years from now? What is he going to do?
I dont know why I still care when I shouldnt. After all those times he called me names after I tried to wake him up.
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he is living in dreamland.he needs help before everyone in bedok area end up really tasting part of him.
its best he seek help from a psychologist or professionals which he might strongly decline.
best is you get 10 thugs to force him to produce results or end up getting beaten up severely.thats the cheaper and effective way.
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familiar rite, hitman .
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or you could offer hima stungun or a can of extra hot habenero mexican chilli from cold storage.so each time he fails to become someone he claims he badly wants to be.....the chilli or stungun will be a real torture thathe wished he had worked very hard to get the lawyer job or degree he badly wants.
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Originally posted by FireIce:
familiar rite, hitman .
is ok.i have a hand grenade.come 20 man i pull hand grenade pin and we all meet god. -
yup....reminds me of working life in spore.:)those were the times.
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for those interested can read http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica
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Originally posted by DarkPhoenix or DP:
*Warning: Long Post*
I know of someone who is living a lie.
[Background info]
He's just a below average student who has a good command of english vocabulary. He likes to brag and very narcassistic. He went to a neighbourhood school, didn't do well for his O levels except an A1 for his english. His math & Science were F9 & E8 respectively.
After O lvls, he took a private diploma course. And then he decided to take his private A levels. Before his results were out, he was bragging that he was going to the UK to study at LSE. When the A lvls results were out, he was silent. Very unusual for someone who loves to boast around.Somehow, a few months later, he publicly declared that he's an intern for KhattarWong. When someone questioned him on his admission for intenship as he has yet to complete his 1st year law studies, he replied that he was a special case.
When one of his friends who got into khattarwong as an intern, he couldnt answer her who was his mentor.A few months after, he went to LSE singapore orientation programme and made friends. When UK unis term is about to start in sept, he told them that he was going to cambridge uni instead. When people questioned him that how could that be possible since offers were closed by June. Again, he replied that he was a special case.
Of course he lied to everyone that he was from RI. He met up with RI juniors. Even bought the school uniform.His family is not rich and his parents are divorced. Both living in HDB flats. But he claimed to everyone that he lives in a landed property etc.
And his stories on romance is clearly right from a novel and fantasy. How a girl could not want him because he is too rich.
And his father was arrested for impersonation as a police officer before. But he claims that once he graduated from Cambridge uni, he will be given by his father a law firm, and boasting that his father is a famous lawyer that non have heard of.
He even took photos from the internet of london and paris claiming that he took them. It was obvious that those photos were taken from different cameras.
Now he's claiming that he's an intern for the ministry of law. In a year or two, he's going to 'graduate' and I am afraid that his deception will escalate and he would impersonate as a lawyer then.
I personally think he's a sick individual who needs help. I've tried many times to help him to make sense. And all he did was sprewing vulgarities at me.
I am someone who was very close to him and when he registered for his A levels as a private candidate, I was there. The last time I tried to put some sense to him, he replied that 'I got into RI, but I never told you'.
Is he breaking the law or anything with his deception and lies. If I cant put some sense to him, maybe the law can.Thanks for reading this very long post.
i guess it depends on what motivates him to lie.
personal gain? low self esteem? habitual? addiction? what's your take?
trying to scare him into stopping with the law may not be effective. he has a make believe life, career, home, education so far... he'll be putting up a tough fight to keep his lies together.
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Originally posted by soleachip:
i guess it depends on what motivates him to lie.
personal gain? low self esteem? habitual? addiction? what's your take?
trying to scare him into stopping with the law may not be effective. he has a make believe life, career, home, education so far... he'll be putting up a tough fight to keep his lies together.
I think it's due to self-esteem. Mostly.He started his extreme lies when he failed his private A lvls after boasting to everyone that he's going to study in LSE in the UK.
When I think of it, he's been lying since a long time. I knew him since we were 10. now we're both 22. In sec sch, when I told him about my overseas travels with my parents to perth, he would always have something to say on how he travelled to UK, US etc. When I asked for photos to see and swap, he'll give loads of excuses.
I did try to expose him to our mutual friends, but he went to name calling me. Of course, most of them were shocked and then laughed, others said just ignore him as he'll get tired of his lies and the rest just kept quiet.But those who asked me about him knew he was lying or already had doubts of his stories.
Dont know how to help someone who doesnt want to be helped.
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Originally posted by DarkPhoenix or DP:
I think it's due to self-esteem. Mostly.He started his extreme lies when he failed his private A lvls after boasting to everyone that he's going to study in LSE in the UK.
When I think of it, he's been lying since a long time. I knew him since we were 10. now we're both 22. In sec sch, when I told him about my overseas travels with my parents to perth, he would always have something to say on how he travelled to UK, US etc. When I asked for photos to see and swap, he'll give loads of excuses.
I did try to expose him to our mutual friend, but he went to name calling me. Of course, most of them were shocked and then laughed, others said just ignore him as he'll get tired of his lies and the rest just kept quiet.But those who asked me about him knew he was lying or already had doubts of his stories.
Dont know how to help someone who doesnt want to be helped.
he may benefit from professional therapy. at this moment they remain conjectures... low self esteem... learned behaviour from his parents... there may be deeper underlying causes and triggers too.
is therapy an option for him? will he be open to it?
just a personal suggestion... as human beings... if we have a positive experience, in his case perhaps an incident resulting from something nice and 'real' he did... a situation or an accomplishment he can take pride in without having to lie or embellish to anyone else, we seek to recreate those experiences again. so we either succumb to 1) punishment (the threat of jail), 2) negative or 3) positive reinforcements.
just my 2 cents worth.
btw he must have done something right to have a friend like you through these years.
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Originally posted by DarkPhoenix or DP:
Thank you for your responses.
He was a good friend of mine. And he's getting from bad to worse.
He may not break any law YET.
And his lies only make him more bitter to his friends as well.He doesnt want to listen to me. Instead, he thinks I am pest.
And the think is, I've chatted with some of his friends and mutual friends that he lied to, and ALL of them knew or at least has doubts of his stories. Those who were close asked me to help him get help. Others just laugh behind his back. He's really making a fool of himself.
I dont know how to help someone who doesnt want any help. I was hoping the law could at least mend his ways.
He's still in his early 20s. Instead of lying to ppl, I would prefer that he chase after his dreams than living a lie. Then what happens after 10 years from now? What is he going to do?
I dont know why I still care when I shouldnt. After all those times he called me names after I tried to wake him up.
You have done what a good friend should do.
But you can only help if he is willing to receive help.
There are many who refused private counsel from well meaning friends and family.
No point fretting about something you have no control over.
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ya, hokkien called it How Lian
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ts: you can only give advise to your friend. Whether he listen to you or not is up to him to decide. You have done your part and your responsibility as a close friend.
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Yalor, TS had done yr part already, hokkien said, Kian ok liao, Mai Ki Kian. Meaning smart is ok, dun try to be too smart
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Originally posted by FireIce:
familiar rite, hitman .
Owned!
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Originally posted by angel7030:
ya, hokkien called it How Lian
Isn't it kong jiao way?
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Originally posted by DarkPhoenix or DP:
Thank you for your responses.
He was a good friend of mine. And he's getting from bad to worse.
He may not break any law YET.
And his lies only make him more bitter to his friends as well.He doesnt want to listen to me. Instead, he thinks I am pest.
And the think is, I've chatted with some of his friends and mutual friends that he lied to, and ALL of them knew or at least has doubts of his stories. Those who were close asked me to help him get help. Others just laugh behind his back. He's really making a fool of himself.
I dont know how to help someone who doesnt want any help. I was hoping the law could at least mend his ways.
He's still in his early 20s. Instead of lying to ppl, I would prefer that he chase after his dreams than living a lie. Then what happens after 10 years from now? What is he going to do?
I dont know why I still care when I shouldnt. After all those times he called me names after I tried to wake him up.
What I don't get is what you're getting out of this. Are you trying to protect others from him, are you trying to protect him from himself, and in either case, who put you in charge?
Anyway, there's no law against talking shit per se, so it's inconsequential. Stop agonising over it and go find something better to do.
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
What I don't get is what you're getting out of this. Are you trying to protect others from him, are you trying to protect him from himself, and in either case, who put you in charge?
Anyway, there's no law against talking shit per se, so it's inconsequential. Stop agonising over it and go find something better to do.
Both.Nobody puts me in charge and nobody is.
He's going from bad to worse. He may be talking shit with his lies for now. Sooner or later, he's going to want more. Recognition, power etc. So one day if someone else becomes a victim from his 'law advise', or him talking money from 'clients' who thinks he's a real lawyer etc. Then what?
What can I get from this? Nothing.He has to stop this nonsense before it escalates. Now he's a law student pretend, what's next, lawyer pretend?