GF Pregnant. Needs Some Advise Here.
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Hi guys, need some advise here regarding my girlfriend's prenancy. Long story short, I've been staying in Taiwan for the past 6 years and recently out of the blue, my gf of 5 years told me she is pregnant. She is a Taiwanese and I'm a Singaporean. I wanted her to go for an abortion but she on the other hand is hell bent on having the baby.
I've no intention of getting married (No Marriage = No Divorce) but the baby's birth cert will bear my name as the father.
The question is
1) How can I get the baby bonus from SG Government? What documents do I have to submit?
2) How much is the baby bonus in cash will I get?
For your info, all along she loves baby like mad and always wanted to have one without weighing the consequences. I on the other hand, never in my life want to or plan to have kids. She has been on contraceptive pills all along and recently I noticed that she has not been taking it on a regular basis.
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Get married in Singapore to enjoy the baby bonus. Anyway it is not much.
Marry her.
You need ROM cert to prove. You can go find out if they only accept Singapore ROM cert.
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Hi thanks for your input. As I mentioned earlier that I've no intention of getting married because if there is a divorce, she is entitled get half of all my assets which I spent years of hardwork building it. I do not have the time or want to waste any unnecessary time on this thing besides building my business which is currently my top piority.
Anyway if the baby bonus is not much, then I think I'll forgo it since it involves ROM cert.
My next question is "How can I persuade her to go for an abortion or induce miscarriage"?
From my point of view on this issue, baby is not considered an asset but a liablity. Not to factor in how much time (equivalent to money) will be wasted on this baby.
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no baby bonus if nt legally married under SG law it is between u n her to decide the future of the flesh n blood. battle of who gives in. good luck
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For goodness sake if you have no intention to marry her and do not want any baby, in the first place you should practise responsibility in using condom.
Irresponsible.
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your gf cannot claim ownership to your assets if you are not married.
but your gf can claim maintenance fee from you due to a child once it is given birth to and your child can than claim ownership of your assets in future.
if you want to avoid the possibility of her claiming your assets in future, get a lawyer, write a agreement stating that she has no intention of claiming your assets in anyway possible other than legal respondsibility such as fathering a child.
Marriage is a legal loophole in Singapore still presenting for alimony is not recognized yet, except for overseas countries like in the States etc..but get yourself protected first even if it isn't recognized..
at least you have some decent form of protection..include a clause inside which states that in the event should she in future wish to seek compenstation for whatever stupid reason, going against this alimony agreement, she fully understand and agree that she will forfeit any potential maintenance fee paid to her for the children..
but thinking from the Taiwanese girl's perspective, the culture there is very different, they can get married as young as 16-18 years old and with both sides of parents support..it's a very loving family culture and upbringing there..as compared to the materialistic Singaporean culture la..
nonetheless, if you say you are a businessman, if you can't even take responsibility for your own actions, want fun, don't take precautions, your business will be the same..what if one day you make it big, and your gf will spread the news of your irresonsible actions to media..than your business will also fail in a short period of time..due to your negative record..
Real Life Example: 'Dr' Clement Chiang of Forex Trading..his business failed not because he has no skills (being frequently featured by Business Times as a regular expert speaker and article contributor), but rather on the basis of lack of integrity >> Dishonesty, lying about his PhD certification..
Your failure to be accountable for your own actions will lead to your own downfall in future.
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Originally posted by Falsemove123:
Hi thanks for your input. As I mentioned earlier that I've no intention of getting married because if there is a divorce, she is entitled get half of all my assets which I spent years of hardwork building it. I do not have the time or want to waste any unnecessary time on this thing besides building my business which is currently my top piority.
Anyway if the baby bonus is not much, then I think I'll forgo it since it involves ROM cert.
My next question is "How can I persuade her to go for an abortion or induce miscarriage"?
From my point of view on this issue, baby is not considered an asset but a liablity. Not to factor in how much time (equivalent to money) will be wasted on this baby.
having a baby is not like having hamsters!u should simply buy porn dvd n prevented all these inconvenience really.
easiest way now if she dun want any abortion or contraceptives is to start a family and start all over again.........u sound very confused.........u shoulda ordered online porn dvd like me!!!!!!...just dun chop yer taiwan gal into 10 pieces like some weirdo in spore!
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Originally posted by shanfan:
For goodness sake if you have no intention to marry her and do not want any baby, in the first place you should practise responsibility in using condom.
Irresponsible.
maybe he did use the condom...gal must have pulled it apart halfway for damn weird reason!:)he should divource n remarry!!!then when another preggy situ happens to another girl jhe can redo the whole thing all over again!!must feek damn shiok being a father of 10 kids like that!!!:) -
Taiwan has one of the highest number of abortions per year. This will tell you much about Taiwanese girls. Some of them even has more than two abortions. The Taiwanese girls can cohabit easily , have more than one boyfriend and more than one abortion.
Unlike Singapore society whereby morals are still of higher standard and abortions are not common. Marriage is sacred and girls are entitled to dowry and divorce alimony. The Singaporean familes are usually much more united and closer than the Taiwan loose moral society.
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Abortion is still killing a life.
If you are worried about the loose but shrewd Taiwanese laying claim to your assets through planned pregnancy, you can always sign a pre-nuptical agreement with her.
Next time dun play play with taiwanese , they are loose but more businesslike than you.
Singaporeans men should be as smart as you ^^ too many are damn too honest and responsible when taiwan men also eat and spit their own kinds.
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u sayin kid might not be his even?
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he should surf for porn instead!
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You are having the baby for all the wrong reasons.
A baby is not a 9 month issue.
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so obvious he doesn't love this taiwanese. Wait till he finds someone who make his heart beat 1000 times faster, then no such issue liao.
Any-way, i bet this Taiwanese had planned the pregnancy on purpose.
Eh why can't you marry her in Taiwan's legal system ? I don't think Taiwan divorce entitled the wife to half the assets of the man. Why must marry in Singapore's terms leh?
Also do an DNA test on the baby, skali not yours one. lols.....
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Am I the only one who seems to notice that he wants to induce miscarriage?
You don't want anything to do with it, break up with her. Simple. Don't need to cause bodily harm (with future consequences) just to protect yourself.
Disgusting too. That you even want to capitalize on this via baby bonus.
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his love is $$$$$$$$$$
not the girl
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Originally posted by FireIce:
no baby bonus if nt legally married under SG law
it is between u n her to decide the future of the flesh n blood.
battle of who gives in.good luck
I see no baby bonus if not legally married. Thanks for the contributions.
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Such a good girl is hard to find. Hardly any girls nowadays love babies in fact many girls want to be a career girl.
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Disgusting? Umm... Sorry I don't feel that way. I'll feel disgusted when this thing starts sucking time and money out from me.
Since I don't see any capital gains or positive returns but negative returns and liabilities in this situation, the next alternative is to get rid of the baby to avoid any future implications which may arise. Even that means inducing miscarriage. I'm currently wasting my time with my doctor on a solution which is safe to get rid of the baby once and for all.
In this relationship, I've never taken a walk on the wild side, I'm being faithful to only one and so was she. All these years, I've done my very best to prevent her from getting pregnant which is why condoms, contraceptives, you name it. I'm being very responsible here and she understands the fact that I hate babies to no words can fully describe it, she went ahead to have one to satisfy her desire for babies.
She did mention about marriage years before this incident and I'll never agreed to it besides the door swings both way. If she leaves, she will have to give up her current lifestyle. Very straight forward.
I believed alot of forum goers here may feel that I'm realistic, cold and uncompassionate. Face it guys, we lived in a very realistic world. How many married couples at the point of walking down the asile exchanging vows soon realise the next best solution will be in the lawyer's office signing divorce papers and fighting for money.
I'm taking a precaution to prevent any of this from happening right from the start. Simple: No Marriage = No Divorce and everybody lives happily ever after. This is the real world and not the story book fairy tale where the prince and the princess live happily ever after which sadly has been ingrained into most girls' brain since a tender age.
No ROM means the girl will never have the right to fight for alimony or whatever money in future. In a household, if she knows she entitled to part of your assets or alimony upon marriage, I believed the man will soon loose his foothold and respect.
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Originally posted by Chowtofu:
Such a good girl is hard to find. Hardly any girls nowadays love babies in fact many girls want to be a career girl.
Yes I agreed that she is a very good girl. Helps me alot in my business, housework, cooking, etc... and she loves me alot (I don't really care about the part if she loves me or not). I will never get married for very clear reasons which I've stated earlier.
The issue I am facing now is how to get rid of the baby (obviously a huge liability) to me.
I've also read that even a healthy women has a 20% chance of miscarriage but I'm not willing to place my bet on a 20% chance.
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Do you love her?
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Originally posted by Wiser:
so obvious he doesn't love this taiwanese. Wait till he finds someone who make his heart beat 1000 times faster, then no such issue liao.
Any-way, i bet this Taiwanese had planned the pregnancy on purpose.
Eh why can't you marry her in Taiwan's legal system ? I don't think Taiwan divorce entitled the wife to half the assets of the man. Why must marry in Singapore's terms leh?
Also do an DNA test on the baby, skali not yours one. lols.....
Sorry if I may sound realistic. Nothing in the world can make my heart beats a 1000 times faster besides money. I do not believe in true love by the way. Even in the world of animals, only when the male has a beautiful nest, able to provide for the family then will the females come. This is a true fact.
DNA test will be deemed unnecessary because the baby will not live to see the light. Right now she is about 2 months pregnant and I have about 6-7 months to resolve the situation even it means inducing miscarriage.
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Originally posted by Falsemove123:
Nothing in the world can make my heart beats a 1000 times faster besides money.
I envy you.
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Irresponsible bastard. Make pple pregnant and all you blabber about is the liability that the child will bring you.
It is because of scums like you that guys get a bad name. Creeps like you dont deserve to be alive.
If theres a mod here, please kick this son of a bitch out, thanks~