Heron_kusanagi... i do agree with what you say...
i also went to the UGC 2004 too, after careful analysing of their playing styles... i do strongly agree that they are indeed skillful... those players who are good analyst should see the difference too...

Ok if we put aside of their characters and attitudes, we should be able to see the difference in ID skills somehow... eh should i say, they should be rank the top 3 teams in SG... especially they retain their 2nd in position in SG...
Those who don't believe can go test their skills... but if they offend you somehow, then can't be help already... :p but if you are able to keep your mind clear and always concentrate and stay behind their car tail to watch how they play when battle, you will confirm be able to learn some skills... as i can see that they unleash with whatever they have always...

even you stand behind them to watch, you will learn something too if you are a fast learner...
I somehow managed to learn a bit of their Irohazaka downhill skills, i try to practise many times and manage to hit a 3.03 using evo 4 finally, but that was many months ago... noobs like me getting this timing is already happy enough...

Lastly, battle with them can make you learn something... but how much you can absorb must depends on yourself already...
