R34 v RX8- battling analysis
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I've decided to do an evaluation of both cars' battling qualities as they are both considered almost equally effective for battling.
THIS IS AN EVALUATION ON THE BATTLING ABILITIES OF THE CARS ONLY. THIS IS ALSO ASSUMING BOTH DRIVERS ARE EQUALLY SKILLED.
MYOGI- R34
Reason- R34 has better start-up and runs myogi better even though the RX8 runs well on myogi too.
USUI- RX8
Reason- RX8 has signicant difference in timings over the R34. Since the road is so wide, it is difficult for the R34 player to cover the 2-3 second difference.
AKAGI- DRAW
dry: RX8
wet: R34
On dry- the RX8 is 3 seconds faster than the R34. That 3 seconds should be enough to overcome the R34's blocking. On wet, R34 is only 2 seconds slower than the RX8, which should make it better than the RX8 for wet battles here if the R34 driver dosen't make any mistakes.
AKINA- RX8 hands down
R34 is on 3'06 while RX8 is on 3'02. The few wide roads should enable the RX8 to overtake the R34 with it's higher cornering speed. Places the RX8 can overtake are the S-Curves, the long straight after the RHOD, the short straight before the start of the consecutives, and the last home stretch, more than enough places for the RX8 to overtake. On wet, the R34 might have more of a chance, but still..
IRO- RX8 hands down
RX8 is faster by 5-6 seconds here. The skyline will be able to block all the way at the jumps, where it should be overtaken unless the RX8 screws up. Those who have driven the R34 will know it goes over the jumps at a terribly slow speed.
AKINA SNOW- R34 hands down
No explanation needed here. 4WD against FR. 3 seconds IR difference and the R34 has a better start-up. R34 will win unless there is a difference in driver skills.
HAPPO- RX8
RX8 is faster by 2 seconds. It should be able to overtake the R34 as almost every turn is a possible overtaking point on this map.
SHOMARU- DRAW
I think this depends on the direction chosen. If you choose outbound, and the RX8 is on the left, it will start ahead first. If say the R34 is the one on the left, it will start ahead first. So it depends on which direction is chosen. Unless the RX8 has homecourse boost?
TSUCHISAKA- RX8
Again, depends on lining at the start. But the RX8 has 3-4 seconds advantage over the R34 on this track for both directions. So it has the slight advantage here. -
wow.... u actually can analyse it so well... really live up to ur name....
but my rx-8 had difficulties playin akina n i tap too much brakes when i enter every curves at akina.... can u give me tips on handlin the curves there?
another thing... i oso had difficulties turnin on iro.. every turn i 4th gear turn, drop to 3 then back to 4... but i still hit the guardrail... so how can i turn faster or rather minimise the risk of hittin the guardrail?
i noe u have raise too many ques but i really hope i can have a ans to all my ques... thanks a million -
For the curves on akina it is really dependent on your experience for each corner, since there are so many variety of turns there. Best tip is out-in-out, and slow-in fast-out. Always follow those two rules (or basics).Originally posted by Smi|y_DC2:wow.... u actually can analyse it so well... really live up to ur name....
but my rx-8 had difficulties playin akina n i tap too much brakes when i enter every curves at akina.... can u give me tips on handlin the curves there?
another thing... i oso had difficulties turnin on iro.. every turn i 4th gear turn, drop to 3 then back to 4... but i still hit the guardrail... so how can i turn faster or rather minimise the risk of hittin the guardrail?
i noe u have raise too many ques but i really hope i can have a ans to all my ques... thanks a million
For iro, do you use the brakes? You'll need to use the brake for every corner there (yes, every corner) or you'll definately eat wall. For the RX8, only the first corner at the start of CP2 (the one with the funny left than a sharp right) and the jumps should be taken at 3rd gear. The rest can be taken at 4th, but you have to brake early for every turn as well. You need to brake during the turn too. Use the brakes. The style of just releasing accel and turning without using brakes on the dc2 cannot be applied in version 3. -
i not very sure wat u meant by slow-in fast-out... can explain clearer? n the style of dc2 i can use but provide when i turn i must apply brakes n drop gear 3 n back 4Originally posted by HIRA:For the curves on akina it is really dependent on your experience for each corner, since there are so many variety of turns there. Best tip is out-in-out, and slow-in fast-out. Always follow those two rules (or basics).
For iro, do you use the brakes? You'll need to use the brake for every corner there (yes, every corner) or you'll definately eat wall. For the RX8, only the first corner at the start of CP2 (the one with the funny left than a sharp right) and the jumps should be taken at 3rd gear. The rest can be taken at 4th, but you have to brake early for every turn as well. You need to brake during the turn too. Use the brakes. The style of just releasing accel and turning without using brakes on the dc2 cannot be applied in version 3. -
no i meant dont use the style of driving the dc2...you have to use your brakes no matter what gear you drop into..slow-in fast-out means you enter the corner at a slow speed but exit at a fast speed..this style is used for cars that understeer, like the RX8 or skyline.Originally posted by Smi|y_DC2:i not very sure wat u meant by slow-in fast-out... can explain clearer? n the style of dc2 i can use but provide when i turn i must apply brakes n drop gear 3 n back 4 -
then how can i do the slow-in fast-out method? izzit apply alot of brakes then step back the gas when u r half way through the curve? or is it sometime else
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hmm.....i onli break on the 1st turn, the one after cp2 and the jumps.....doesnt reali eat wall......usin a new evoIV.....entering at 75and exiting at 85...any idea how to increase the speed?
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hmm.....i onli break on the 1st turn, the one after cp2 and the jumps.....doesnt reali eat wall......usin a new evoIV.....entering at 75and exiting at 85...any idea how to increase the speed?...i lag do the 1st and 2nd area 2 secs eah behind the machine record...den i keep screwin up at cp 3 and 4......
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yeah that's it..Originally posted by Smi|y_DC2:then how can i do the slow-in fast-out method? izzit apply alot of brakes then step back the gas when u r half way through the curve? or is it sometime else -
ya Evo IV dont have to use the brakes as often on iro..how to increase speed? practise la..seems like you got everything right, just fine-tune a little can liao...btw whats ur time? below 3'05 right?Originally posted by undrman:hmm.....i onli break on the 1st turn, the one after cp2 and the jumps.....doesnt reali eat wall......usin a new evoIV.....entering at 75and exiting at 85...any idea how to increase the speed?...i lag do the 1st and 2nd area 2 secs eah behind the machine record...den i keep screwin up at cp 3 and 4...... -
hey...all skyline R-34 drivers out there...have u ever wonder why don't segarosso just make the skyline R-34 in initial d, have the same attributes as the real Skyline GTR-34
. 4WD grip, powerful startup and acceleration, and especially the weight transfers that it has when going through quick turns like happo 
. All R-34 fans and R-34 drivers in initial d, u guys know what i'm talking about. All R-34 drivers in initial d and anyone else who would like to elaborate on this comment pls feel free to. -
actually the skyline ain't that great on the touge or mountain..because it's too heavy, it was built for the track...but i do agree it's handling in the game should be slightly better..it does have some agility in real-life because of the ATTESA ET-S 4WD system and the 4-Wheel steering..but not as good as the Evo and RX7 on twisty mountains. btw ur R34 lvl 22 is for version 2 right? since america dosen't have much v3 machines around.Originally posted by J-RZA-80:hey...all skyline R-34 drivers out there...have u ever wonder why don't segarosso just make the skyline R-34 in initial d, have the same attributes as the real Skyline GTR-34 . 4WD grip, powerful startup and acceleration, and especially the weight transfers that it has when going through quick turns like happo . All R-34 fans and R-34 drivers in initial d, u guys know what i'm talking about. All R-34 drivers in initial d and anyone else who would like to elaborate on this comment pls feel free to. -
I just don't get it. Why can't I control RX-8 well? It's always understeering (Akina) and it's supposed to be a FR??!! That is so weird. Could it be that I've been driving MR for too long?
I gor no problems in steering for evo 7, R-34 and MR-S but gor a bit problem with RX-8.
But one thing must admit. RX-8's acceleration is shocking
. And it's really good in shomaru and the last map. Maybe I'm going to train it in shomaru... 
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there we go again....
kope frm ID forums -
yes the parts lists were taken from other forums..but this analysis was totally done by me..i can swear..Originally posted by bismarck:there we go again....
kope frm ID forums -
hmm the RX8 is kinda an odd car...the handling is a bit awkward....but once you master it somewhat, it's hella fast....just that it's handling style is unorthodox..Originally posted by Icicle:I just don't get it. Why can't I control RX-8 well? It's always understeering (Akina) and it's supposed to be a FR??!! That is so weird. Could it be that I've been driving MR for too long? I gor no problems in steering for evo 7, R-34 and MR-S but gor a bit problem with RX-8.
But one thing must admit. RX-8's acceleration is shocking . And it's really good in shomaru and the last map. Maybe I'm going to train it in shomaru... -
unorthodox? lol... me master liao but not fully master... and akina i had just noe how to play... thanks to HIRA for tellin me the slow-in fast-out method... if not i wont be able to play akina till now
btw icicle... wat tune r u usin? i find me tune a is good... but i tryin on other parts to see which one is better.... the acceleration i must say very good... however it might lose to S15... i had played against S15 b4 n my acceleration is slower then it... oso discover tat S15 gainin of speed is very fast... -
glad to help.. the S15 has the second fastest start-up in version 3, first is NB8C...then is GDB and Altezza..but i tell u already, it cannot make it on wet..
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...DOTS... the rx-8 is wat? how about R34? but i seldom see pp usin the 4 cars u mention ley... n did u say these 4 cars sux on wet?
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ya they all suck on wet except GDB..RX8's pick-up behind those 4 cars and the R34..of those cars, got quite a number of ppl using GDB already..Originally posted by Smi|y_DC2:...DOTS... the rx-8 is wat? how about R34? but i seldom see pp usin the 4 cars u mention ley... n did u say these 4 cars sux on wet? -
yeah...my skyline is a level 22 for version 2..about to become level 23, hopefully version 3 comes soon, so that i can get to try the new tracks that u guys are always talking aboutOriginally posted by HIRA:actually the skyline ain't that great on the touge or mountain..because it's too heavy, it was built for the track...but i do agree it's handling in the game should be slightly better..it does have some agility in real-life because of the ATTESA ET-S 4WD system and the 4-Wheel steering..but not as good as the Evo and RX7 on twisty mountains. btw ur R34 lvl 22 is for version 2 right? since america dosen't have much v3 machines around. -
but the onli down side is tat... the speed is decrease by 10... like when play i'm playin akagi in ver2 my FD can exit the first curve at 130-140 but in ver3 my FD can onli exit at 120-130... n sometime cars will get wheel lock... but in ver 2 i nv encounter tis b4... at least ver 3 is more reality as it got wheel lock
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my cars....
rx-8(SE3P)
nick----> SONG6
battle lvl----> 13
racer lvl----> 13
points----> 1million plus
rx-7 type R (FD3S)
nick----> S0N96
battle lvl ----> 3
racer lvl----> 4
points----> 1million plus -
today challenge someone who claims he is wet specialist... every map he play is wet and win... the guy is usin EK9 n 8V.... when i play wif him he challenge me happo IB n OB wet... he challenge me 3 times n i won him twice... when i lost i challenge him tu ban OB wet... trash him like hell... lol
maybe u guys can drop by century sq can hav a game or something else.... -
today challenge someone who claims he is wet specialist... every map he play is wet and win... the guy is usin EK9 n 8V.... when i play wif him he challenge me happo IB n OB wet... he challenge me 3 times n i won him twice... when i lost i challenge him tu ban OB wet... trash him like hell... lol
maybe u guys can drop by century sq can hav a game or something else....
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my cars...
rx-8(SE3P)
nick----> SONG6
battle lvl---->13
racer lvl---->13
full tuned
rx-7 type R(FD3S)
nick---->SON96
battle lvl----> 3
racer lvl----> 4
full tuned -
Originally posted by Smi|y_DC2:
i dont frequent century square..come bugis la..will be glad to have a few games...
[b]today challenge someone who claims he is wet specialist... every map he play is wet and win... the guy is usin EK9 n 8V.... when i play wif him he challenge me happo IB n OB wet... he challenge me 3 times n i won him twice... when i lost i challenge him tu ban OB wet... trash him like hell... lol
maybe u guys can drop by century sq can hav a game or something else....