S'pore cannot make do without foreign talent: Ex-MM Lee
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Originally posted by Kosen pang:
Go open social non-profit foundation . sad but true this is how the world works . do not be drama queen and be all tears and gas this is the real world . what happen to all the sperms that cannot make it ? flushed out .
Singapore is better . you cannot make it they got encouragement classes for you to take . free of charge . they got counselling for the unemployed . they got job fair for the unemployed . while at the same time counselling for these people the industry do not wait and they need efficient and hardworking workforce . so whatever pass the standard and is available would be taken into consideration . like you said , each of us have our place in this society . the difference from ants is they are born with their status ingrained in them . they cannot help it . they cannot fight to rise in ranks . we can .
OMG. I really wonder why do you keep insisting that we are not fighting. majority of sinkies are asking not for free lunches but rather a truly fair competition
and the difference in exchange rates between india/china/indonesia/philippines etc etc etc just doesn't provide for that.Whats there to fight when Its not even fair in the first place. WTF are you even serious ? Why do we need to fight with FT when our own citizens are at a handicap. Btw you still dint answer my NS question.
You dint get my point in the ants argument. You obviously do not know how a country works. Not everyone can be managers or bosses in a country. There has to be someone doing toilet work. Yet they are still your citizens, You dont force them out and replace them with other people.
Comming back to the Family question i asked. What if you fall below the expectations of your parents. Do they kick you out or replace you out ? No right ? So how can a country we call home do this to their own people ? So if you are a singapore male why do you need to defend the country you call home ?
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ok ok . what is so unfair for you ? please list down 123 clearly ok . i want to sleep now . I will try my best tomorrow . I hope that you could see that ranting and providing more negative thots would not help in any way . it is better that we encourage fellow singaporeans especially the teenagers and children to understand what they are facing and to encourage them to think how to they could survive when they grew up and get into working life . it wont help that they also inherit the ranting and the anger and all the endless arguments that wont see any light .
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Originally posted by Kosen pang:
What has it got to do with me how they want to spend their hard earnt salary ? nothing . they are as free to utilized what they earnt as us . and we dont have the slightest right to condemn how they spend their salary or whatsoever . whatmore to compare their exchange rates . that is ridiculous and unprofessional .
US EU et cetera do not come here to slave . they come here to own . they are the true monster at the back if you really want to talk about how this business rolls .
What is so stupid to utilize what you have in all mean in order to get what you want if you really know hot to get what you want ? they think they can make i in singapore so they come to this expensive country . you wait for US EU to come here ? they dont compete with you . they compete with the upper class singaporeans who own company and run businesses . and when those singaporeans lose it does not affect you directly but they are truly the real monster . talk about foreign company like seven eleven, giants, carrefour that has successfully replaced almost every local owned confectionery shops . do you complain about those ? how about KFC and Mc.Donalds ? would kaya toast and bee cheng hiang complain about them too ? they would but they wont just complain . they work hard to survive and get their share of the market . suddenly Mc Donalds also want a share in Chinese new year market share . they came up with rice burger called fun-tastic . bee cheng hiang and all the local business get the worst impact and we just dont notice . but they need to fight back and innovate . damn Im tired .
the point is . damn . im tired .
You can always continue tomorrow if you are tired.
I think you need to get off your elite chair. You need to bring this argument into a more peasant type of argument. Not everyone is a high flyer earn 10k a month and you are missing the points i mentioned again.
While i gave practical examples on the current situation and on exchange rate affecting the situation. You did not give yours and just dismissed it that is ''ridiculous and unprofessional'' I seriously doubt you even understand my argument in the first place. Considering you are in the dark of how companys select people. Not according to talent mind you.
I gave the example on why US EU construction workers are not comming to sg to be construction workers, but china india vietnam and many more. You told me they are here to own. LOL
Own what ? Own the best construction worker award ? Own to build faster buildings ? I am laughing now. I think you need a break to think about my points. There are more points i did not cover, enough to bring this thread to page 20. -
Originally posted by Kosen pang:
What has it got to do with me how they want to spend their hard earnt salary ? nothing . they are as free to utilized what they earnt as us . and we dont have the slightest right to condemn how they spend their salary or whatsoever . whatmore to compare their exchange rates . that is ridiculous and unprofessional .
US EU et cetera do not come here to slave . they come here to own . they are the true monster at the back if you really want to talk about how this business rolls .
What is so stupid to utilize what you have in all mean in order to get what you want if you really know hot to get what you want ? they think they can make i in singapore so they come to this expensive country . you wait for US EU to come here ? they dont compete with you . they compete with the upper class singaporeans who own company and run businesses . and when those singaporeans lose it does not affect you directly but they are truly the real monster . talk about foreign company like seven eleven, giants, carrefour that has successfully replaced almost every local owned confectionery shops . do you complain about those ? how about KFC and Mc.Donalds ? would kaya toast and bee cheng hiang complain about them too ? they would but they wont just complain . they work hard to survive and get their share of the market . suddenly Mc Donalds also want a share in Chinese new year market share . they came up with rice burger called fun-tastic . bee cheng hiang and all the local business get the worst impact and we just dont notice . but they need to fight back and innovate . damn Im tired .
the point is . damn . im tired .
I dont even want to talk about the puerile example you have given me but i will take a shot at it anyway.
Do you even know what does kaya toast and bee cheng hiang sell ? KFC and mc donalds sell fast food, do they sell fast food too ? You realise you are comparing apples with oranges right ?
Equally funny is your mc donalds example. Yes they come up with rice burger, who will get affected ? other fast food sellers like KFC, certaintly not BCH who sells barbecue pork. Lets go abit deeper what does barbecue pork do. You give them as gifts to other people during chinese new year.Do you give rice burgers to your relatives during chinese new year ?
Now i am wondering are you even chinese lol
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FYI, SGD 10k income is very common now, and it still classify under low flyer status, can't even smell sentosa cove or the nearby.
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The youngs like me and my friends are not, i repeat again, not going to work like our earlier generation, we see many flaws in it to work hard or even study hard here, but thanks to the earlier generation contribution, we are able to relax and live a better life, hopefully, it can last for a few generation down the rules.
And if you ask us why we behave like that, you should know better than us on the current situation of the society we live in, the foreign talents depressing wages, foreign students easy accessible to our Uni or poly, the MNCs employing of their own country or other country cheaper managements, the property issues, and the ever increasing cost of living.
So, what the hell, let it rot, just enjoy our life first, for the future, let future decide
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The point is not about competing with FT. Most are not talent. I even have doubts about their qualification.
We are bringing in CHEATS ! Sometime ago, talks was about genes. Nowaday, it is "confident that they will behave like us".
I noticed that the cleaner on the expressway did not clean up as thorough as I hope he can be. Or look around the housing estate AFTER cleaning. Would most of the local be able to clean up much better ? I think so.
In short, we are degenerating.
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We are not productivity anymore, our productive indicator had gone down badly, both in economy and birthrates, and as we go along with foreigners, we will produce less quality products, cos these people heck care about quality, that is why you see poorer and poorer quality in food and electronic products leading to manufacturing going down. The foreigners are also occupying our food courts, and many other shops, and their foods can never match punggol mee goreng standard, is our govt blind?
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One fine day, Singapore might sink due to too many FTs living in Singapore. Sinkapore.
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Originally posted by Kosen pang:
ok ok . what is so unfair for you ? please list down 123 clearly ok . i want to sleep now . I will try my best tomorrow . I hope that you could see that ranting and providing more negative thots would not help in any way . it is better that we encourage fellow singaporeans especially the teenagers and children to understand what they are facing and to encourage them to think how to they could survive when they grew up and get into working life . it wont help that they also inherit the ranting and the anger and all the endless arguments that wont see any light .
Havent i listed down the points already ? Why is it so unfair and such. Yes it is unfair. Its not just me, not just the peasants, even the high flyers. If not why do you think the government lost a GRC this time, their votes down to 60.1 ?
Endless arguments that wont see any light ? Are you sure ? Are you suggesting to me that the goverment doesnt pay to attention the voice of the people ? So why the need for the govenment. Why do you even want to vote for this government
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Extracted from Stomp : Foreigners shoo family away from Botanic Gardens landmarks because they "booked it"
Comments by one person I found require attention.
By SophiaRosieHart
1. if Foreigners weren't in singapore singapore would have heaps of poor people or heaps of people in jail
2. if we werent here singapore would of been run to the ground singapore cant live without Foreigners because they the ones who are bringing all the money in and they the ones who are building all your malls like if i wasn't here also mbs wouldn't be up and running like it is now
3. singaporeans race is mostly chinese and malay mixed
4.everyone is a Foreigner to singapore because singapore doesnt even have its own real race
5.my own real race is maori and english
and mbs is the only good looking building in singapore but crap inside sadly hahahaha i got here to late when it started flooding because these dumb *****s dont know anything about building6.@Darn walk out on a job i get paid 30 grand a month for mate you must be joking,found a job like that in new zealand nope because they all taken and i would rather travel the world i've been to most of asia i must say singapore was the worse place i ever landed in and i cant wait in till i get to move
7.and u see i already have another job lined up thats mine if i want it and most of the new zealanders here get moved around by the same company they dont keep them here because they know they dont like it just like my boss knows i hate singapore thats why next is Bangkok or Dubai or Aussie.
he probably worked his ass of an lied to get the job thats why he cant move anywhere because he sucks and no one wants him ouch that must hurt hahahahahahahahahaa like no one wants you -
Originally posted by TTFU:
Havent i listed down the points already ? Why is it so unfair and such. Yes it is unfair. Its not just me, not just the peasants, even the high flyers. If not why do you think the government lost a GRC this time, their votes down to 60.1 ?
Endless arguments that wont see any light ? Are you sure ? Are you suggesting to me that the goverment doesnt pay to attention the voice of the people ? So why the need for the govenment. Why do you even want to vote for this government
Again . what is the connection with someone earning 10 K and that somebody else is not ?The Government allow FT to work here and provide them the possibility to be permanent citizen . there are 5 kind of FTs . as follow :
01. Those who come here and look for job . BUT they cannot just come in and look for job . they need to be on social visit pass which last only for 2 weeks and during the two weeks if they fail to land a job . which means nobody want to hire them . they would be deported back to their homeland . so it all goes back to our local companies .
02 . Those who came here to study . and after they graduated they will look for job and in 30 days time if they cannot find a job they would be deported back to their homeland .
03 . Those Who came here due to scholarship or tuition grant from singapore government . they would graduate and they will be booked by companies before they even graduate . althou if they sidetrack and did not reached the needed requirements in their studies they would be deported back to their homeland too without finishing their studies .
04 . Those who do not even come to singapore but are invited by our local companies to work in Singapore due to their outstanding qualification . usually they will hold strategic posts such as manager or ceo .
05 . Those who are dirty rich like Indonesian or Hongkong people et cetera who come here to invest in property market or acquire companies or establish company or whatsoever . do you know 48% of private property in Singapore are owned by Indonesian Developer ?
I think most of the complaints go to FT number 01 . because for number 02 - 05 they are considered to be upper class FTs who are damn rich or at least educated . and for the FT number 01 . who could blame them that during their 2 weeks visit to singapore on social visit pass our local companies want to hire them ?
Now this is comparing apple and orange .
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Originally posted by Kosen pang:
02 . Those who came here to study . and after they graduated they will look for job and in 30 days time if they cannot find a job they would be deported back to their homeland .
03 . Those Who came here due to scholarship or tuition grant from singapore government . they would graduate and they will be booked by companies before they even graduate . althou if they sidetrack and did not reached the needed requirements in their studies they would be deported back to their homeland too without finishing their studies .
This are the place i find it funny..
Local no talent
Singapore itselve no scholars muhaha
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I am also a foreigner but not a talent. I found most singaporean don't understand sometimes a foreigner complaint about singaporean is just because they ran into obstacles and being frustrated. I do not think they are really feeling so unhappy to live here. Unfortunately, most singaporean don't really care. Everytime I needed people to listening to my problem, they don't even bother to listen nor giving me any advices. Native english speaker does enjoy a very different experience here. I know its quite difficult to favor immigrants from china or other poor and nor english speaking countries. But its just being very cruel to treat people like that. On the other hand, once they know my background is not that poor, they totally change their attitude towards me. You know, they asked me out every weekend and doing a lot of good things to me. My poor comment of english does not matter anymore.
You know what I mean......
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Originally posted by Kosen pang:
Again . what is the connection with someone earning 10 K and that somebody else is not ?The Government allow FT to work here and provide them the possibility to be permanent citizen . there are 5 kind of FTs . as follow :
01. Those who come here and look for job . BUT they cannot just come in and look for job . they need to be on social visit pass which last only for 2 weeks and during the two weeks if they fail to land a job . which means nobody want to hire them . they would be deported back to their homeland . so it all goes back to our local companies .
02 . Those who came here to study . and after they graduated they will look for job and in 30 days time if they cannot find a job they would be deported back to their homeland .
03 . Those Who came here due to scholarship or tuition grant from singapore government . they would graduate and they will be booked by companies before they even graduate . althou if they sidetrack and did not reached the needed requirements in their studies they would be deported back to their homeland too without finishing their studies .
04 . Those who do not even come to singapore but are invited by our local companies to work in Singapore due to their outstanding qualification . usually they will hold strategic posts such as manager or ceo .
05 . Those who are dirty rich like Indonesian or Hongkong people et cetera who come here to invest in property market or acquire companies or establish company or whatsoever . do you know 48% of private property in Singapore are owned by Indonesian Developer ?
I think most of the complaints go to FT number 01 . because for number 02 - 05 they are considered to be upper class FTs who are damn rich or at least educated . and for the FT number 01 . who could blame them that during their 2 weeks visit to singapore on social visit pass our local companies want to hire them ?
Now this is comparing apple and orange .
The connection is Not everyone is a high flyer. Do you understand ? You earn a lot, that does not mean everyone earns a lot too. You are fortunate, that does not mean everyone is.
01. I suppose this group you meant are the lowly educated ones. FT who come here to jobs that require not much education. Looking at how you describe group 01, i doubt you even understand the real situation. What are the chances that these group of people failing to find a job ? In fact most, or all find jobs. They just need to be cheaper than SG people to get employed. Since you like to talk about profits. Lets say you are a boss. A SG guy demanding 800 dollars for a construction worker job, A FT china demanding only 600. Who will you choose ?
The FT chinese can afford to undercut the SG guy by a margin cause converting his salary back to RMB, its still better than working in china. But can the SG guy undercut himself, where everything is in Sing dollars ?
02-03. I suppose you mean FT studying here. Do you read the straits times ? not long ago theres this parent complaining his son didnt get the placing in NUS. He is also mad about the number of FT in local unis snatching singaporean sons placing. These people come to SG with their bombay degree and got themselves admitted to NUS, while local boys undergoing through 2 years of NS got rejected. HE questioned NUS on the admission criteria of FT.
NUS replied theres no standard set of requirement. But NUS assured that the requirement is as stringent as local requirement. How would you feel if you are a local parent ? Owned
Scholarship or tuition grant. I wonder how much you know of this before talking. Do youknow the requirements in the first place ? Whats the reason of awarding to the FT instead of the local boys ?
04. Nothing about this group
05. Ahh i will talk about the housing problem here. Before i get started, Do you even know of the housing problem in singapore ?
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The connection is Not everyone is a high flyer. Do you understand ? You earn a lot, that does not mean everyone earns a lot too. You are fortunate, that does not mean everyone is.
01. I suppose this group you meant are the lowly educated ones. FT who come here to jobs that require not much education. Looking at how you describe group 01, i doubt you even understand the real situation. What are the chances that these group of people failing to find a job ? In fact most, or all find jobs. They just need to be cheaper than SG people to get employed. Since you like to talk about profits. Lets say you are a boss. A SG guy demanding 800 dollars for a construction worker job, A FT china demanding only 600. Who will you choose ?
The FT chinese can afford to undercut the SG guy by a margin cause converting his salary back to RMB, its still better than working in china. But can the SG guy undercut himself, where everything is in Sing dollars ?
There would be 2 point of views . for job that doesnt require much brain I will qualify based on asked salary . in this case it is construction worker job . construction job doesnt require much brain so I will qualify and choose based on lowest salary then I will go on to consider about other points in both resume/portfolio . while for jobs that require more brains like marketting or sales I would of course consider about education qualification and then I will go on to consider about the asked salary . see the difference ? for construction jobs I will probably get the china guy to do it but I reserve the marketting and sales position (which is more substantial than construction job) to those with better education and communication skills (which also means if you are comparing a singaporean with people from china, you would already win in communication compared to the other) . do you get what I mean ?
02-03. I suppose you mean FT studying here. Do you read the straits times ? not long ago theres this parent complaining his son didnt get the placing in NUS. He is also mad about the number of FT in local unis snatching singaporean sons placing. These people come to SG with their bombay degree and got themselves admitted to NUS, while local boys undergoing through 2 years of NS got rejected. HE questioned NUS on the admission criteria of FT.
NUS replied theres no standard set of requirement. But NUS assured that the requirement is as stringent as local requirement. How would you feel if you are a local parent ? Owned
NUS only admit 4 international students for medical study annually/each year . that is how stringent it gets when we talk about NUS .
So yeah . the case above . could be that . could be this . quite popular . very clear to me . you know . 'he is foreigner how come better than my son' case .
Scholarship or tuition grant. I wonder how much you know of this before talking. Do youknow the requirements in the first place ? Whats the reason of awarding to the FT instead of the local boys ?
Yes I know . There are local tuition grants and scholarship going on you know . check with the NTU and NUS . I suggest you take up political studies if you are planning to enroll . Every year NUS takes in 4 international students (on scholar ship) for medical study and NUS is ranked world's 20 best uni . that means not only asia but people from all over the world are competing every year to become one of the admitted four international students . only the best of the best were chosen . they are top notch fighter . they dont find job . jobs find them .
The other one is called tuition grant . tuition grant is less stringent but it is only applied to those studies which is not as popular for instance like arts, IT, commerce et cetera . tuitin grant require you to be top 20 in your school and then they will filter out all the top 20 from all over the world who applied for tuition grants in singapore . they will then decide from there . those on tuition grant must maintain their grades . once they get three warnings for low grades they are off singapore .
04. Nothing about this group
05. Ahh i will talk about the housing problem here. Before i get started, Do you even know of the housing problem in singapore ?
Im a lil bit here and there in property business too . tell me about it .
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Originally posted by Salem2011:
I am also a foreigner but not a talent. I found most singaporean don't understand sometimes a foreigner complaint about singaporean is just because they ran into obstacles and being frustrated. I do not think they are really feeling so unhappy to live here. Unfortunately, most singaporean don't really care. Everytime I needed people to listening to my problem, they don't even bother to listen nor giving me any advices. Native english speaker does enjoy a very different experience here. I know its quite difficult to favor immigrants from china or other poor and nor english speaking countries. But its just being very cruel to treat people like that. On the other hand, once they know my background is not that poor, they totally change their attitude towards me. You know, they asked me out every weekend and doing a lot of good things to me. My poor comment of english does not matter anymore.
You know what I mean......
then you go back to china
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Originally posted by Kosen pang:
The connection is Not everyone is a high flyer. Do you understand ? You earn a lot, that does not mean everyone earns a lot too. You are fortunate, that does not mean everyone is.
01. I suppose this group you meant are the lowly educated ones. FT who come here to jobs that require not much education. Looking at how you describe group 01, i doubt you even understand the real situation. What are the chances that these group of people failing to find a job ? In fact most, or all find jobs. They just need to be cheaper than SG people to get employed. Since you like to talk about profits. Lets say you are a boss. A SG guy demanding 800 dollars for a construction worker job, A FT china demanding only 600. Who will you choose ?
The FT chinese can afford to undercut the SG guy by a margin cause converting his salary back to RMB, its still better than working in china. But can the SG guy undercut himself, where everything is in Sing dollars ?
There would be 2 point of views . for job that doesnt require much brain I will qualify based on asked salary . in this case it is construction worker job . construction job doesnt require much brain so I will qualify and choose based on lowest salary then I will go on to consider about other points in both resume/portfolio . while for jobs that require more brains like marketting or sales I would of course consider about education qualification and then I will go on to consider about the asked salary . see the difference ? for construction jobs I will probably get the china guy to do it but I reserve the marketting and sales position (which is more substantial than construction job) to those with better education and communication skills (which also means if you are comparing a singaporean with people from china, you would already win in communication compared to the other) . do you get what I mean ?
02-03. I suppose you mean FT studying here. Do you read the straits times ? not long ago theres this parent complaining his son didnt get the placing in NUS. He is also mad about the number of FT in local unis snatching singaporean sons placing. These people come to SG with their bombay degree and got themselves admitted to NUS, while local boys undergoing through 2 years of NS got rejected. HE questioned NUS on the admission criteria of FT.
NUS replied theres no standard set of requirement. But NUS assured that the requirement is as stringent as local requirement. How would you feel if you are a local parent ? Owned
NUS only admit 4 international students for medical study annually/each year . that is how stringent it gets when we talk about NUS .
So yeah . the case above . could be that . could be this . quite popular . very clear to me . you know . 'he is foreigner how come better than my son' case .
Scholarship or tuition grant. I wonder how much you know of this before talking. Do youknow the requirements in the first place ? Whats the reason of awarding to the FT instead of the local boys ?
Yes I know . There are local tuition grants and scholarship going on you know . check with the NTU and NUS . I suggest you take up political studies if you are planning to enroll . Every year NUS takes in 4 international students (on scholar ship) for medical study and NUS is ranked world's 20 best uni . that means not only asia but people from all over the world are competing every year to become one of the admitted four international students . only the best of the best were chosen . they are top notch fighter . they dont find job . jobs find them .
The other one is called tuition grant . tuition grant is less stringent but it is only applied to those studies which is not as popular for instance like arts, IT, commerce et cetera . tuitin grant require you to be top 20 in your school and then they will filter out all the top 20 from all over the world who applied for tuition grants in singapore . they will then decide from there . those on tuition grant must maintain their grades . once they get three warnings for low grades they are off singapore .
04. Nothing about this group
05. Ahh i will talk about the housing problem here. Before i get started, Do you even know of the housing problem in singapore ?
Im a lil bit here and there in property business too . tell me about it .
If every boss is like you. But unfortunately, the real situation isnt like this in singapore. Its still cost > everything.
everyone is replaceable in a organization except for the boss himself who might be replaced too if his company go bust...
cost is everything...ya so wat if you have worked in that company for 20 yrs and have a niche knowledge...let me tell you what the bosses will do...
- they will employ 2 or 3 FTs back and ask them to shadow you and learn from you and then you boss will tell u that you are the senior and you shld show them the ropes and then you can move up the coporate ladder once u handover all your stuffs, but in reality u will most probably be retrenched when the next downturn come becoz your salary on the company payroll is damn high
- if u refuse to pass on your knowledge den they can sack you and then ask the FTs to learn and figure it out on their own.
- even if they don't sack or retrench you, they will try to cut your salary and bonuses in half or your salary will 4ever remain at that level with no increments whatsoever becoz of cost-cutting measures introduced in the economic downturn and you have hit your salary cap
By 40 yrs of age, aimed to have your own business and become the boss yourself or prepared to be replaced be by a younger and cheaper local sinkie or FTs and go drive a taxi.
This is the hard truths of life in S'pore02-03. NUS has only one course right ? Ohh okay, very stringent indeed.
So how to compare ? A indian with a bombay degree, a cheena with a chinese degeree and a SGrean with a polytechnic diploma. Who to choose ?
Affordable housing. A 800k HDB with your meager salary. And with all the overcrowding here, young singaporeans are deprived of houses. How to have a baby tell me.
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Sad . but that is the truth . I understand . if we live a normal life just like everybody else and doing just what everybody else seems to do . we dont expect different results . there must be other ways for those rich people to exist . they dont do what everybody do . they have their own way to do things . it is not like lottery that god pick someone to be rich . it is 70% hardwork . and yes everybody work hard . so I think the proper word should be smart .
It all goes back to us friend . the government got to have their own reason for needing the FT for now . which I am also not very sure of . but I dont believe that singapore government is damning their own people . it is the number 1 basic principle of what a government should not do . it could be the birth rate . it could be something else . maybe when our birthrate or our population hit some point they would stop the importing and balance things out .
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economic success cannot be untouchable...that is not perceivable for man on the street...we have indeed achieved institutional well being....but not for most of the people..they were not able to touch it...
institutional economics did not do well for people...but only for institutions and the systems....and thats the problem....
the world needs a new economic innovation.....Peoples' Economics...in the wake of the Economics of Care.....
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Originally posted by Kosen pang:
Sad . but that is the truth . I understand . if we live a normal life just like everybody else and doing just what everybody else seems to do . we dont expect different results . there must be other ways for those rich people to exist . they dont do what everybody do . they have their own way to do things . it is not like lottery that god pick someone to be rich . it is 70% hardwork . and yes everybody work hard . so I think the proper word should be smart .
It all goes back to us friend . the government got to have their own reason for needing the FT for now . which I am also not very sure of . but I dont believe that singapore government is damning their own people . it is the number 1 basic principle of what a government should not do . it could be the birth rate . it could be something else . maybe when our birthrate or our population hit some point they would stop the importing and balance things out .
I don't think the government minds who "singaporeans" come to be. If native singaporeans get with their program (ie live and work like FTs), they wouldn't mind. If not, they would rather import more FTs.
For instance a newspaper commentary was of the opinion that "we should not be beholden to a static construct of a Singaporean identity, but rather embrace a Singaporean identity that is constantly in flux and changing as needs arise.
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the problem is still an institutional flaw...where policies rolled out....the reverse is the Peoples' Economic Model
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Originally posted by Kosen pang:
Sad . but that is the truth . I understand . if we live a normal life just like everybody else and doing just what everybody else seems to do . we dont expect different results . there must be other ways for those rich people to exist . they dont do what everybody do . they have their own way to do things . it is not like lottery that god pick someone to be rich . it is 70% hardwork . and yes everybody work hard . so I think the proper word should be smart .
It all goes back to us friend . the government got to have their own reason for needing the FT for now . which I am also not very sure of . but I dont believe that singapore government is damning their own people . it is the number 1 basic principle of what a government should not do . it could be the birth rate . it could be something else . maybe when our birthrate or our population hit some point they would stop the importing and balance things out .
You still dont understand the evil cycle do you ? Our birthrate is declining over the years even without FT. What makes you think with the situation so dire now, our birth rate will suddenly shoot up. People are discouraged and unhappy, and obviously things aint going better with the latest being transport fare increase, when smrt and sbs are making millions of profit. Smell a rat ?
Birth rate. Instead of making singapore a more condusive enviroment for having babies. The government adopted this fast and fail method of attracting hordes of FT.
Like i said few pages back. Those who prosper good for them, but those who are stuck, you as a government dont kick them out. You dont force your own citizens to a corner. Its a huge mistake seriously. Thats why its 60.1 instead of 75% now. If the govenment doesnt even pay attention to the needs of its own citizens. Why vote for them ? LET them get replaced by FT themselves. (chen shou mao)
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With more foreign talents earning big bulks, the locals are push down to earn less. Making daily expenses more difficult to the locals.
With the increase of transportation and the rest coming soon, I wonder how are the locals going to survive. We have to tighten our belts and compete with the rich salaried paid foreign talents.